Ahem, Leveler. Americans DO work for a living. In fact, we work some of the longest hours for the least benefits in the Industiralized world. Unlike
Europe, we dont get vacations, sometimes we get healthcare, few other fringe benefits, few holidays and days off, little sick leave, and dont get paid
all that much. You fall prey to the assumption that most Americans are well off working fat jobs for fat pay. There are many like me who work lesser
jobs, drive beat up old cars, and have very little expendable wealth.
Regression? depnds on your definition of the word. Were not going to be third world. But of course, this rampant fat matrerialism and how many toys
you own has to go. People dont need 5 SUVs and flat screen TVs in every room of the house.
Isolation requires us first of all to take this absurd chunk of cash we spend on foreign aid and occupation, and spend it on devlopment of new
technology and the like. It will require all military be removed from foreign lands. Dimplomcay must remain neutral. defense beffed up signifigantly
at our own borders. Switzerland had little problems remaining neutral for centuries. We can do it too without having world banking in our country.
Cars switched from petroleum birning hogs into ethnol or other feul consumers. With adequate funding and emphasis on devlopment of new sources of
energy, we could become self sufficent. Conservation incentives and measures introduced. california once was a very big hog of ebergy. After months of
blackouts and hiked up rates, Califorinians suddenly became conservers by necessity. I went there a year ago to visit my family. My reletives chewed
my ass for leaving lights on, cooking food when I didnt have to, ect. Americans will have to learn conservation whether they want to or not, because
someday they will be forced to regardless out of necessity.
Europe is full of infidels too. You think Europe will go marching in the middle east and take what they want, and seize the resources? You need a
military for that. is Europe gonna have to divert money to build up its onw military? Do you think that they will negotiate with you once we are gone?
Youre infidels too. And you did engage in the crusades. the Muslim world has not forgotten.
of course we will continue to be hated once weve puleld out. So? With better security, and without the US funding thier govornments and economies,
they are gonna have one hell of a time comming to get us. With better security they will have even less sucess.
Before we arrived in saudi,the Iraqis, iranians, ect were all at each others throats, either militarily or diplomatically. Everyone hated saddam
Hussein. Now that we are there, they have forgetten briefly thier hatred, and supported the defense of Iraq from American agression. Once we are gone,
yes, they will return to fighting amongst themselves. Some will still hate us and want to come after us. But they will no longer have nearly the
support and unity they once had.
preventing suspicious entry into this country should be something that is taken care of regardless. If we became Isolationist, we would have to screen
them better. who enters, who leaves. leaving the country wouldnt necessarily be so tough, but getting in would. Since Sep 11, many people are in favor
Europe would be forced to assume the mantle of world leader for a time, if China or japan dont yank it away. Even Europe might not be able to handle
it much. To be on top, you need a military. Is Europe gonna make the sacrifice of building up a huge military machine? The costs? Already your social
system is heavyily taxed.
Theres little fear of Americans becoming envious of Europe. I have been over there. even with your higher standard of living, your society and
govornment are suffocating. Nothing is worth that cause. if thats what you call social advancement, Ill stay in the dark ages, thank you much
Americans will, whther they want to or not, lose our excesses. Regression you say? Ill tell you this, what is better: to be a rich man with AIDS, or a
blue collar worker with full health?
id rather take a cut in our wealth in sacrifice for self sufficency, freedom from foreign entanglements, and stability of our country, then I would to
live a short time at the top, only to crumble to ashes like Rome did.
Sanders, trade wouldnt necessarily stop, but we really need to move away from foreign imports, especially with our huge trade defecit. We need to make
stuff here, period. We feed potential enemies like China and make them stronger by sending manufacturing there.