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Topic started on 12-10-2005 @ 05:51 PM by Mayet
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A Swedish Sperm Donor has been ordered by the Swedish Supreme court to pay child support to three children conceived by his donor sperm in the early
1990's. The sperm was donated to a lesbian couple and shortly after the three children were conceived the lesbian couple broke up. The mother of the
children then persued the donor for child support. After a lengthy court battle that has stretched for nearly five years the Swedish Supreme court
upheld the earlier desicions made by the district and appeals court in the matter. The Supreme court said as he is the biologicial father he must pay
child support.
www.news.com.au
The man, now 39, donated his sperm to the couple in the early 1990s. Three sons were born during the years 1992-1996, according to Swedish news
agency TT which reported the ruling.
The man told the court that he and the women had agreed that he would play no role in the boys' child rearing and that the two women would be their
parents.
Nonetheless, the man signed a document confirming that he was the biological father of the children.
Shortly after he signed the document, the two women separated and the biological mother demanded that the man pay child support.
The man took the case to court, but lost in the district and appeals courts.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
This case has legal ramifications the world over for sperm donors. If more mothers are awarded child support in situations similiar to this men will
be further reluctant to donate sperm to childless couples.
Yes he is the biological father so technically he should pay support but morally is the desicion the correct one?
If he relinquished his rights over the the lesbian couple I personally feel they have no rights to ask him for support just because their personal
situation changed. It states an agreement was made that he would have no role in the upbringing of that child.
It is cases like this that challenge moral, ethical and legal rulings that indeed do not bode well for the sperm donor programs. Laws need to be
researched closely and lobbying done in certain quarters to make changes to those laws so people like this cannot abuse laws for their own personal
gain.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:02 PM by marg6043
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This was the mistake the man made, and for what he now has to support the children.
Nonetheless, the man signed a document confirming that he was the biological father of the children.

Why did he sign? I wonder.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:03 PM by Astronomer68
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That's the stupidest court decision I've heard in months. If that decision stands up in the U.S. you can kiss off sperm donors without binding
legal agreements in advance.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:12 PM by Umbrax
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What?!?
This is absurd.
There are probably men who's sperm as impregnated dozens of women. They may as well close down all the sperm banks right now.
Thanks a lot to the money grubbing mother who has ruined the dreams of families who can't conceive the regular way.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:23 PM by GradyPhilpott
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I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here in New Mexico, a man is legally responsible for any child borne by his wife, regardless of the paternity
of the child.
Given the laws as they exist in this country, I would have to say that a man must be mentally ill to marry and that mental illness is called romantic
love.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:24 PM by justme1640
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How much do you want to bet the next thing people will go for it college education for the children or medical benefits from the donor.
How sad that one couple will effect so many people now and in the future.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:26 PM by marg6043
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Given the laws as they exist in this country, I would have to say that a man must be mentally ill to marry and that mental illness is called romantic
love. 
Oh, Grady, Grady, is call I believe bastard law, something like it they have it in California, if you live with a women and raise the child that she
has even if is not your child you will be responsible for child support or something like that.
Grady you talk like a true bachelor don't you.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:28 PM by 12m8keall2c
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IMO this comes down to what was "signed on the bottom line" of the donor contract!
Had he not signed-ON as the "biological father" the case would have no merit whatsoever . . . ANONYMOUS.
WOW/WTF! is the thought that comes to mind.
I make a "donation" in the hopes that others, who otherwise may not have the ability to conceive, could benefit from my actions yet lo' and behold
I am now a new father accountable for child support payments!?
Not sure I agree with the decision of the courts but, Hey . . . he did sign the bottom line!?
Again, IMO, you can bet your bottom dollar/bottom line this "decision" will have a profound effect on the number of "donors" who don't read the
fine print!
Whew?! . . . makes me happy that I had that lil' snip-snip OP* a few years ago.
*Wife took the kids to the shore for the weekend and left me with a bag of ice and a case of my favorite "beverage".
UmBrax:
My thoughts Xactly!
There are husbands and wives [world-wide] who are unable to conceive naturally, for many reasons, and here we have a situation that could potentially
limit their ability even more.
There are MANY who wish raise a family yet are unable to do so as a result of various medical conditions. Will their options be affected by
this courts ruling?!
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:40 PM by GradyPhilpott
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That is not the kind of law I speak of, marg. In New Mexico, any child born to a married woman is the financial responsibility of her husband,
regardless of paternity.
We even had a case here not long ago in which a man paid child support for years for a child who was never born, but that's a different issue.
[edit on 2005/10/12 by GradyPhilpott]
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 06:41 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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This is terrible! The couple who had the children in their 'family unit' should be responsible for supporting the children. This is so sad!
Donor beware...
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 07:05 PM by The_Modulus
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Oh no!!
I'm going to the clinic tomorrow to get me my sperm back!
But in all seriousness, this is absurd. Not only does this ruin the hopes for future couples who cannot conceive, but this is a blatant abuse of human
rights. That poor guy probably donated to get himself 5 bucks for lunch or something, and now he is forced to pay child support!?
This just shows how over-liberalism is starting to run its soiled feet all over our law books.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 07:21 PM by Jehosephat
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I think this article has more of a healine shock, then the actaul article does. The fact the guy signed a paper claiming to be the biological father
and take care of the children makes the fact of a "Lesbian couple" rather pointless and stirr up anyone who has a strong opinion about Gay rights
and doesn't READ THE @#$%! ARTICLE
I bet he was saying "BORK BORK BORK" after the trial
[edit on 10/12/2005 by Jehosephat]
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 07:28 PM by GradyPhilpott
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This is what the article states:
The man told the court that he and the women had agreed that he would play no role in the boys' child rearing and that the two women would be
their parents.
Nonetheless, the man signed a document confirming that he was the biological father of the children.

The fact that the parents were lesbian doesn't appear to be a factor, only that the deal was that the man was to have no role in the raising of the
child. However, the impact could be far-reaching for those who think that sperm donation is a benign act. Frankly, I think sperm donation is a very
bad choice regardless of the circumstances.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 07:44 PM by obsidian468
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To those of you who act so shocked to read that he signed a paper stating that he was the biological father:
Whether conceived through sperm donation, or the actual act, he IS the biological father. The term "biological father" refers to the male whose
sperm created half of the makeup of the child. It does not make any specifications as to how the sperm met the egg.
That said, this is still an absurd case. In any sperm doning situation, the donor is doing it mainly just for a few bucks. The recipient is the one
there, paying for a service, and specifically desiring impregnation. In no means is it the responsibility of the donor. In fact, in many cases, the
donor never even meets the recipient of his sperm. It's not a case of a man not being able to "keep it in his pants," but rather a case of supply
and demand. Do you take legal action against a company because their product actually did exactly what it claimed to do? No. This is the same type
of case. The simple fact that this ruling went as it did doesn't bode well for the alternative impregnation business, and really only serves to
illustrate how thoughtless people can be, and how utterly conscienceless lawyers can be for even taking such a case.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 08:09 PM by The_Modulus
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I was under the impression that donors were anonymous. Only information such as weight, blood-type, medical history etc were to be revieled to a
recipient, not personal information.
I also don't see that this will necesarily have repercussions anywhere beyond Sweden, or at least outside of Scandanavia, I know at least that my
government (South African) wont be affected by this. Why should the US?
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 08:32 PM by ahnikah
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Originally posted by Jehosephat
I think this article has more of a healine shock, then the actaul article does. The fact the guy signed a paper claiming to be the biological father
and take care of the children makes the fact of a "Lesbian couple" rather pointless and stirr up anyone who has a strong opinion about Gay rights
and doesn't READ THE @#$%! ARTICLE
I bet he was saying "BORK BORK BORK" after the trial
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I have to agree with you....he signed the papers......he is responsible for his own legal actions.....
The fact that it was a lesbian couple has nothing to do with the matter, in all honesty. I would believe the same if it were a husband/wife couple.
A good strong helping of C.Y.A. would've been in order here......but the donor legally bound himself to the child support, and therefore should have
to be responsible....
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 08:58 PM by cjf
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Originally posted by ahnikah
I have to agree with you....he signed the papers......he is responsible for his own legal actions.....

I agree proper CYA was probably not observed; perhaps even the manner in which he donated created a ‘legal’ anomaly; hard to tell from the
article.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 09:32 PM by LeftBehind
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I don't think that the donatation was done anonymously.
The article presents no details, but it sounds to me as if the man either donated in the natural way, or went with the women to a fertility clinic.
I don't think this affects sperm banks or even involves them.
Since the man volunteered his sperm for this, it shows that he didn't understand the law very well, and proves that old saying about good
intentions.
Anonymous sperm donors would never end up in this position, and I don't think any of you donors out there should be worried about this.
This story is about a man who made poor decisions even if they were well intentioned.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 09:33 PM by marg6043
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
That is not the kind of law I speak of, marg. In New Mexico, any child born to a married woman is the financial responsibility of her husband,
regardless of paternity.

Sorry, I though it was the same law.
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reply posted on 12-10-2005 @ 10:06 PM by orionthehunter
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I believe the judges were wrong. The guy made a donation to a couple who agreed to take care of the kids and accepted the donation. Just because he
manufactured part of the product that he donated shouldn't make him responsible for the actions of that couple. The couple broke an agreement and
should have to pay for their own actions instead of making an outside party pay. I wonder if this legal precedent will lead to lawsuits against all
manufacturers in Sweden since they in effect provided the physical goods that other people are using but now the users are no longer required to pay
for broken agreements or misuse if they don't want to take care of the goods they already accepted.
I believe if the lesbians had accepted a cell phone package instead of a sperm donation, they wouldn't have been able to get out of their agreement.
Similiar principle I believe but not enough legal protection from lawyers and judges for someone making a donation.
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