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Originally posted by johnlear
The reason that the F-19 is such a secret is that the funding was hidden so that even top Senators and Reps. didn't know about it. The F-19 was not funded as an airplane. If the truth of the F-19 were to emerge it would compromise a lot of other hidden projects and would invite unwelcome questions about black budget funding. .....The F-19 was not supersonic. The F-19 did have some major stability problems that were eventually worked out.
Originally posted by Cruizer
If anyone has ever bothered to look they'd know that back in the days before the "F" for fighter designation we used "P" for pursiut. There were quite a few Ps that never went past assignation to a proposed project. Many never had metal cut if they went to the design stage at all.
Johnlear, I'm jumping right into the conversation late... but how exactly do you know what the F-19 is if high ranking government officials don't?
This is all very interesting because when I researched it, the only conclusive evidence I found was saying that the designation F-19 was a mistaken designation and never really used.
What role did/does the F-19 play if, as you state it is sub sonic? Doesn't seem to be an interceptor or fighter given the speed profile. You describe technology that would compromise other projects. Without giving too much away, was it in avionics, stealth aspects, weapons? Was it a great leap forward in technology or just another incremental increase? Is there something to it that the Navy is the only branch to have it? You seem to know more than you say on it, could you elaborate?
If the F-19 exists that's fine and dandy but please note that every F designation does NOT end up in a viable, in-service aircraft. Where are the F-21, F-24, F-25, F-26?......you get the idea.
Originally posted by johnlear
I have another friend, a Navy SEAL, who saw it operational aboard an aircraft carrier.
While I find much of what you have to offer intriguing and often entertaining, I'm having a hard time swallowing this one. I think your friend was probably pullling your leg, or maybe feeling the effect of one-too-many cold beers.
As someone who has spent time on more than a few USN carriers, I can assure you that the presence of a super-secret tactical aircraft on any carrier would be instant news around the fleet. Something of that magnitude could not possibly be contained or explained away with a cover story. There are simply too many people involved with flight operations, security, maintenance, fuel, armaments, etc. to be able to effectively "hide" an unacknowledged aircraft abord a US carrier. Nor could you swear that many people to secrecy, considering that probably only 1/2 the crew even has a security clearance, nevermid TS or beyond.
And how exactly does this aircraft come aboard? Secret night landings where no one can see? That must have been tough on the pilot, don't you think? Have you ever seen what it takes to qualify any aircraft for carrier landings and take offs, nevermind a specialized test bed or prototype? Or maybe it came aboard in a crate - but then who unpacks it and re-assembles it? And then who is the brave pilot who is going to ride that airframe off a steam catapult.....at night?!?
Methinks this is just a well-worn sea story............Y'argh!