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posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 09:01 PM
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If one of your friends happens to start dating a white chick, are you going to stop being friends with them? Will you tell them how disgusting they are being? When you have a child that is old enough to date, are you going to forbid them to date outside their race? Will you teach them that it's 'wrong' or 'disgusting' or disrespectful of their heritage? Will you tolerate it or will you kick them out of the house if they happen to fall in love with someone that doesn't have the right pigmentation according


Well I did that done that.... I parted ways with a friend because of that, It was just too much too bear...

You all don't understand this scheme don't you all? I will never accept, that! And you know what i will teach my children, Hatred, and drill them subconsciously, that they should love their own simple as that!




posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by crusader

And you know what i will teach my children, Hatred, and drill them subconsciously, that they should love their own simple as that!


Teaching hatred is morally wrong I believe. I don't see anything wrong with teaching kids to try to support their own culture and race but teaching hatred can lead to violence and there is enough of that already. We are all the same species and may have had the same mother many many ages ago.



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 02:03 AM
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I'm for interacial dating because I have always had a thing for asian girls. I just find girls with straight black hair and tanned skin very attractive as well as the other features that are common in asians. I think I'm actually the least attracted to white girls with light, curly hair because they look too much like my mother lol. Still if a girl has a good body, attractive face and nice personality than everything else is mearly a preference and not a requirement. That said i don't want humans to completely loose their unique regional looks/traits, so i would be against mixing until we all look the same but that's never going to happen anyway. If anything what we are doing now is only going to create more diversity and distinct looks, in fact the rate of interracial mixing has probably been much greater at other points in history. For example when the moors invaded spain or when the mongels invaded europe.

[edit on 22-10-2005 by Sabre262]



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Sabre262
I'm for interacial dating because I have always had a thing for asian girls.


Wow, that's almost as politically incorrect as my brother's favorite T-shirt, which reads "I only support gay marriage if both chicks are hot".

Don't get me wrong, I never miss the chance to drool on myself as an Asian girl walks by- particularly Cambodian- however that's not why I don't have a problem with interracial dating.

I'm OK with interracial dating because (progressing from the serious to the absurd)

1. My belief in civil liberties (for those of you who equate civil liberties to minority rights or left-wing politcs, let me remind you that the term actually refers to individual rights in general) is complete- point-blank and period.

2. America has never shown any qualms about screwing minorities, so I can't see anything wrong with making love to them.

3. Thomas Jefferson was for it, at least privately.

4. Many people (mostly chauvanist pigs I grant you) would think it rude for a woman to have a guy travel even a couple of hundred miles and stay for even a couple of days without giving him a little something-something. Well, minorities in America in many cases came THOUSANDS of miles and have stayed for CENTURIES. 9/10 Chauvanists (who, if my television does not decieve me, are a very powerful majority in America) would have to agree then that minorites have earned a little "cultural exchange" between the sheets.



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 06:43 AM
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Teaching hatred is morally wrong I believe. I don't see anything wrong with teaching kids to try to support their own culture and race but teaching hatred can lead to violence and there is enough of that already.


Ok I didn't mean that what I said i will preach my children Hatred. Let me make myself clear on this issue: Firstly I do not agree with the poll, it was incorrect, as a matter of fact, it was gauging or shaping public opinion, after the New orleans ``Katrina`` fiasco. But the world ain't buying that everything in America is `` honky dory``. It was a significant, play on the public's minds. iWhat does it mean by support? Tolerate? open? to? Oh what a treachrous path we are descending..

Mrs. beneovelent Heretic, you are such a fool! What I meant to sya was why should I date the descendants of the people who enslaved my ancestors? It happened hundreds of years.. yes I agree... But the memory of it is still there, and we will never forgive or forget(At least I will not!)

On the issue of race, take this angle, you all say we are one species, but hey science and gentics have proved that we are not! I am saying we are diffrent beings in the whole species thing. I am black, you are white Caucasians do some strange and weird , outrageous things, We coloured, non-white people will never do... So there goes your same species thing out the window!

Let me state BOLDLY- I am not a racist! the term racist is so verry vaguely used, it could mean anything including taking pride in your own race. Just as the term terrorist could mean one's defending your values and land...

You see hwen you goout of way and iniate actions, persucute, openly, to others of a particular race. then that is being racist. But when you hold pride in your own, and state that you will not date interacially, (for whatever reasons) It's not racist... (you see you people use whatever to your likings so conviently at times, just like GAy marriages, whenever it suits you you twist it around! Gay amrriages are wrong, but you twist it around to suit your own purposes)

Listen in short, I could say for various reasons I am not attracted to non-black females especially white females cause of certain things: I don't like their pale skin, blue eyes, strange , weird behaviours, historical reasons, any muber of things, who's to say I am racist?

Yes America, might appeared to be tolerant , not because of the changing attitudes of the white populace. but because of the enactment of civil rights laws.



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by crusader

On the issue of race, take this angle, you all say we are one species, but hey science and gentics have proved that we are not! I am saying we are diffrent beings in the whole species thing. I am black, you are white Caucasians do some strange and weird , outrageous things, We coloured, non-white people will never do... So there goes your same species thing out the window!


Crusader

Your posts get more and more vague and outragous every day. Are you saying that behaviour can now be attributed to different races? You (or I) do weird, strange things differently from other cultures or ethnicities because we are TAUGHT those. They are passed down and learned from your family, caregivers, friends, society, whatever. It is what makes different cultures unique, and if that is your point for wanting to preserve that for your own children, I understand - it is after all, what makes us who we are.

What you are saying is not that though - you seem to be saying that people of different races should NOT intermarry or reproduce under ANY circumstances, including love or desire, because that somehow makes you a traitor to your own and announces to the world that you are buying into some old hatred.

Again, I can see and understand what you are saying, but my point is that you are still underneath it, all spouting a very racist opinion that advocates keeping racial purity alive by refusing to mix with other ethnicities. You are on the other end of the spectrum saying the same thing that made you hate people in the first place. Can you not see that?




Let me state BOLDLY- I am not a racist! the term racist is so verry vaguely used, it could mean anything including taking pride in your own race. Just as the term terrorist could mean one's defending your values and land...


Taking pride in a colour or a caste you were born into - hmmm strangely familiar sounding... where have I heard that before...



Listen in short, I could say for various reasons I am not attracted to non-black females especially white females cause of certain things: I don't like their pale skin, blue eyes, strange , weird behaviours, historical reasons, any muber of things, who's to say I am racist?


Yes, but you aren't saying that in itself aren't you? Attraction is one thing, condemnation and avoidance of someone else based on the colour of their skin is racism. I understand you may not be attracted to those with Caucasian or Asian features, the nature of beauty and attraction is after all, a very complex subject and one can't force oneself to think one attractive if they don't see it that way - but you have said repeatedly that even if you did find them attractive you STILL wouldn't marry or reproduce with them and would teach your children to do the same.

But don't you see that the things that you seem to cherish most are the things you still can pass down to your children and it isn't just colour! What you are passing down are your views and the way you look at the world - not just your genes - and even then your genes will exist in that child regardless of colour/shade/hue.



Yes America, might appeared to be tolerant , not because of the changing attitudes of the white populace. but because of the enactment of civil rights laws.


Ahhh - we finally agree on something.

[edit on 22-10-2005 by nikelbee]



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond

Originally posted by Sabre262
I'm for interacial dating because I have always had a thing for asian girls.


Wow, that's almost as politically incorrect as my brother's favorite T-shirt, which reads "I only support gay marriage if both chicks are hot".

Don't get me wrong, I never miss the chance to drool on myself as an Asian girl walks by- particularly Cambodian- however that's not why I don't have a problem with interracial dating.


You kind of took that out of context (although i do understand why since this is a touchy subject for some and i should really word things better), i was just saying i do it myself so i would be a hypocrit if i was against anyone else doing it. It's easy to understand something if you are participating in it. That's all i was saying. No one has control over what they are attracted to and if they are attracted to someone of a different race than nothings wrong with that as far as I'm concerned.

[edit on 22-10-2005 by Sabre262]



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 07:15 AM
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Yes, but you aren't saying that in itself aren't you? Attraction is one thing, condemnation and avoidance of someone else based on the colour of their skin is racism.


There are certainly limits to tolerance here, so that's why I will put a limit to tolerance including dating interacially

www.raceandhistory.com...



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by crusader
Mrs. beneovelent Heretic, you are such a fool!


I'm a fool? You're calling me a fool?




What I meant to sya was why should I date the descendants of the people who enslaved my ancestors? It happened hundreds of years.. yes I agree... But the memory of it is still there, and we will never forgive or forget(At least I will not!)


You don't have a memory of being a slave. That's called a chip on your shoulder. I DO have a memory of being raped. It's very real, it really happened to me, it damaged a part of me for my whole life. Do I hold it against every man of the same color? No. Because that's judging a whole race because of the actions of some. That's racist. And I know better.

Look, I don't care who you marry, white, black, green or blue. And I see that you are not going to admit being racist. That's ok. It's clear we all know better. You can call something a peanut, but if it has feathers, swims and quacks, we all know it's a duck.

The only thing left is the poll. And we also all know that the poll is legitimate as are all the ones I posted that caused you to become so incensed as to threaten to have me burned at the stake or some nonsense and make a personal attack on me by calling me a fool. That's ok, too. That just means you have no other defense, of which I am already aware.

So, throw a fit if you like. The poll is legitimate, regardless of your personal opinions. Someone who admittedly teaches their children to hate other races is a racist, regardless of your opinions. Someone who holds slavery over the heads of white people has issues and is living in the distant past, regardless of your opinions. And someone who must resort to threats and name-calling has lost the debate long ago.

I feel bad for you. I feel sorry that you have hatred in your heart. And worse yet that you don't feel a need to examine it, instead blame it on everyone else but yourself. That's just lame.



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by nikelbee
Crusader

Your posts get more and more vague and outragous every day.


That's what losing a battle looks like. The poll shows it. The reflective posts here show it.

Nothing to see here but the last racist on earth looking for a little attention. Figuratively speaking.



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 01:41 PM
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Mrs. beneovelent Heretic, you are such a fool! What I meant to sya was why should I date the descendants of the people who enslaved my ancestors? It happened hundreds of years.. yes I agree... But the memory of it is still there, and we will never forgive or forget(At least I will not!)

I think what you meant to say is that jews should not marry anyone of German heritage, no matter how far back it may be.

Native Americans should ONLY marry other Native Americans.

I guess the Mc's can't hook up with the english huh?

What about the Chinnese?!?! They enslaved thier own people!!!! I guess Chinnese cannot marry Chinnese.....

Hey...ya know Africans are also enslaved to Africans. Yes it is true. There is still a huge slave trade going on this day..this very minute as you pick your nose. Ever heard of Mauritania? Anyways, black are enslaving blacks there. The same for Sudan....

:shk:



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 02:31 PM
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You don't have a memory of being a slave. That's called a chip on your shoulder. I DO have a memory of being raped. It's very real, it really happened to me, it damaged a part of me for my whole life. Do I hold it against every man of the same color? No. Because that's judging a whole race because of the actions of some. That's racist. And I know better.


You don't know better Mrs. heretic.. You don't... You know what the balck man, the chinese man and the white man has very diffrent worldviews, you could see that everyday.

Losing battle? Losing debate?t his thread isn't about winning any argument..
You see you are completely diffrent , from Us black people and will always remain diffrent... So I must forgive and forget what happen eons ago? the discrimnation that lasts up to this day? you all are burying your heads in the sand like the proverbial ostrich..(too bad)

Polls you don't see:

Wednesday, 3/16
Fathers Who Reject Daughters Because Of Their Husbands' Race

Are you against interracial dating?

- 94.5% Yes
- 5.5% No



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 03:05 PM
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Crusader


Losing battle? Losing debate?t his thread isn't about winning any argument..

You're right, it's about denying ignorance...yet you seem to embrace it.



You see you are completely diffrent , from Us black people and will always remain diffrent...

Really? How is that? How do we differ? I hope you're not refering to having ancestors as slaves...are you? Cause many white Americans (like me) are pretty much muts.....and I'm willing to bet that somewhere down the line we ALL have ancestors that were victims of slavery. So, how do we differ (other than skin color)?



So I must forgive and forget what happen eons ago?

I don't care if you don't forgive the slave traders and masters from back in the day? That's your choice. But how should thier actions reflect on anyone today?



the discrimnation that lasts up to this day?

Cause of people like you. Are you discreminating?

Dude, you should have stuck to your original reasons for not dateing white chics....cause now you sound like a biggot.



Wednesday, 3/16
Fathers Who Reject Daughters Because Of Their Husbands' Race

Crusader, Was that the right move? Did the father do the right thing?



Are you against interracial dating?
- 94.5% Yes
- 5.5% No

You gotta source for that?


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posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by crusader
Polls you don't see:

Wednesday, 3/16
Fathers Who Reject Daughters Because Of Their Husbands' Race

Are you against interracial dating?

- 94.5% Yes
- 5.5% No


Hey, a poll taken of people who reject someone simply because of their race (in other words, racists) agrees with you. Imagine that! Thank you for proving my point. Did you google "Racist Polls" to find that one?


Bored now...



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by SportyMB
You gotta source for that?


Larry's Poll

It's The Larry Elder Show !




Did you know that the FBI recently reported 70 current investigations of threats to prominent interracial couples? Though the number of interracial relationships in our country is increasing, intolerance still exists among those who don’t accept the mixing of different races. Today’s guests desperately want their family members to accept their mates – find out what happened below...

Larry's Poll

Gosh, maybe Jerry Springer has a poll we can look at, too!


Has your sister slept with your ex-wife's brother's gay lover and now everyone is pregnant and nobody knows who the mother OR father is???



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 09:06 PM
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Steups! Why should I agree with race mixing you Heretic!!? Why? Why ?

Why? Because you did it? that guy should have never dated you in the first place... Anyway.... It's just another ploy by whites to mix the races, dilute them and kill them off, you know it's true but you are denying the whole conspiracy.....!

You did that to the Indians in america-the Native americans!

The europeans did it on the plantations, and they will try to do it again!



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 09:16 PM
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I am apologising for my outburst, mrs. heretic and everyone I offended in this thread, but I am still sticking to my views, and my racial pride and values, but here's the problem what we are dealing with, and many of you all do not even recognize or fail to recognize because you all are part of the problem.


White Privilege Shapes The U.S.
Posted: Thursday, January 9, 2003

by Robert Jensen

Here's what white privilege sounds like:

I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support.

The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege.

So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask.

He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter."

That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means.

That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned. I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege.

White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves. There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me.

I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians.

I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege.

What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white.

My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology.

Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them.

I am not a genius--as I like to say, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have been teaching full-time for six years, and I've published a reasonable amount of scholarship. Some of it is the unexceptional stuff one churns out to get tenure, and some of it, I would argue, actually is worth reading. I work hard, and I like to think that I'm a fairly decent teacher. Every once in awhile, I leave my office at the end of the day feeling like I really accomplished something. When I cash my paycheck, I don't feel guilty.

But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white. I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people.

All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor.

There certainly is individual variation in experience. Some white people have had it easier than me, probably because they came from wealthy families that gave them even more privilege. Some white people have had it tougher than me because they came from poorer families. White women face discrimination I will never know. But, in the end, white people all have drawn on white privilege somewhere in their lives.

Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships.

At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special.

I let go of some of that fear when I realized that, indeed, I wasn't special, but that I was still me. What I do well, I still can take pride in, even when I know that the rules under which I work in are stacked in my benefit. I believe that until we let go of the fiction that people have complete control over their fate--that we can will ourselves to be anything we choose--then we will live with that fear. Yes, we should all dream big and pursue our dreams and not let anyone or anything stop us. But we all are the product both of what we will ourselves to be and what the society in which we live lets us be.

White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society.

Frankly, I don't think I will live to see that day; I am realistic about the scope of the task. However, I continue to have hope, to believe in the creative power of human beings to engage the world honestly and act morally. A first step for white people, I think, is to not be afraid to admit that we have benefited from white privilege. It doesn't mean we are frauds who have no claim to our success. It means we face a choice about what we do with our success.
Here what it



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 10:07 PM
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did a white guy steal your girlfriend in highschool or something crusader?



posted on Oct, 23 2005 @ 01:36 PM
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did a white guy steal your girlfriend in highschool or something crusader?


i never had any competition from any white guy for the matter, most of all and still is I live in a predominately black/asian community.

I am just into the interacial fad



posted on Oct, 23 2005 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by crusader
I am just into the interacial fad


Freudian slip huh? Either that or we wore you down. Welcome to the 21st century Crusader! Here is your badge. Now repeat after me.

I am a tolerantperson.







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