posted on Sep, 13 2003 @ 12:21 AM
I was hoping for a response from you, I had noticed your avatar a number of times. I also appreciate you seperateing me form some posters in this
I do not think there are any connections myself. However, I am curious as to other members thoughts. I definately do not the the HOGS coudl be a
part of anything liek that, they are an enthusiast/lifestyle group as far as I can tell.
My main interest lies in 'outlaw biker gangs' such as the angels and outlaws. I am aware that many feel fraternities are part of the consipacy, and
thought that some gangs share similar iconography as well as very dedicated loyalty. The angels thoughts of being 1%ers has always fascinated me, and
made me think that they (inadvertantly) think of themselves and their organization in similar ways as the masons. (ie exclusive, commited, lowyal, and
for life) Additionally many are commited to the betterment of the organization above themselves.
Unfortunately (for the masons) i think the angels is one of the 'secret' (they are only partially secret) that is still somewhat elite, and members
earn their way into.
When it became possible to become a master mason in a day (as other threads have pointed to) the organization lost most of its punch (at least on the
rank and file levels). THis disheartens me, becasue i feel that if an secret society is going to be effective, they need ot be very picky, and make
sure they get loyal, strong members. The outlaw biker gangs have executed better than many (with the exception of letting some members in becasue of
a certain panache for violence and not much else, on occasion).
The interest for me in in the commonalities, loyalty (often until death) power as a group to achieve a comman goal, and the desire and ability to work
above or around the law in many cases. I do not think they are connected, but the similarities are closer than many acknowledge.