Skunkape Photo ? Taken By Fire Chief, page
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Topic started on 9-10-2005 @ 03:39 PM by Harry55
I searched ATS and could not find where this had been shown before. I know its not very clear. But after taking to photo shop it does not appear to be a person. I found the original at Skunkape.info . I was wandering does anyone here have any more info on this picture. The site says it was taken by Fire Chief Vince Dorre. The Dave Shealy on the site seems very credable.


Dave Shealy has spent nearly his whole life looking for a creature, believed by many, to be only a figment of his imagination. You know him from his appearances on national television (Unsolved Mysteries, the Daily Show, the Pulse, Inside Edition), and you have read about his adventures in the Enquirer, The Sun, Miami New Times, and the Readers Digest. As the unofficial mayor of Ochopee, Dave spends most of his time in the Big Cypress Swamp searching for the Skunk ape

Here I found some of his research results.


Skunk Ape is a large hairy, bipedal mammal that calls the Everglades home. They have been spotted as far north as Tallahassee, Florida. Large adult males weigh in excess of 450 lbs and stand 6 – 7 feet tall. Most confirmed Skunk Ape sightings report an individual animal however, increasing sightings reported claim to have seen several Skunk Apes traveling together. These groups also known as troops are becoming more common. Their favorite meal consists of wading bird fledgelings; helpless little birds plucked from their nest. Wild pig, deer and alligator make up a large part of their diet, however it has been found by close examination of their droppings ,the Skunk Ape is an omnivore. Omnivores eat meat and vegetation. The Everglades is a Smorgasbord of edible vegetable matter. Although there have been numerous incidences of hunting camps being destroyed and several shots have been fired by people claiming “self defense”, there is no factual evidence of a Skunk Ape attacking anyone. If you are attacked, defend yourself by any means possible.


Thought I would share this with all to see what you think.


reply posted on 9-10-2005 @ 10:24 PM by Jeremiah25
Personally, I think that this photo shows a human in a costume. There are a few reasons why I believe this, but the most obvious are the creature's proportions and stance. Yarcofin is, I think, right in his appraisal that the figure is more human-like than ape-like in its proportions.

A distinguishing feature of apes is the exaggerated length of their arms in comparison to humans. This trait is advantageous for gorillas, chimpanzees, orang-utans and monkeys because it enables them to effectively utilise all four limbs for movement. For example, gorillas walk using their hind legs as well as their knuckles. Chimpanzees use their long forearms to grasp and swing through branches, as well as to assist in walking. Humans, however, being fully bipedal animals, do not require over-long arms to assist us in motion. This is why we have relatively short arms when compared to other primates. Typically, a human's arms fall to about the mid-thigh range. Try it for yourself, stand up straight and see where your arms end. Unless you are somewhat ... odd ... your arms will come to rest about half-way down your thighs. And such is the case with the figure in this photo. Even though its arms are slightly bent, you can clearly gauge that, when straightened, they would fall to approximately the mid-thigh range. Certainly they would not reach the ground, as one would expect for some type of lesser primate.

As Yarcofin pointed out, the figure's arms are thinner and less muscular than would be expected from any primate less developed than a human. The fact that this creature has arms which are out of proportion of any known primate and are more in proportion with those of a human suggests that it employs solely bipedal locomotion. Whilst this certainly seems to suggest a human, it is also true that a defining characteristic of Bigfoot and his many variants combine human and ape-like features. However, reports of Bigfoot, Yeti, Alma, Sasquatch, Yowie, etc tend to feature creatures with powerful musculatures. Take the Patterson footage, for example:



If it is real, then it clearly shows a heavily-muscled creature. If it is not, then it does a good job of demonstrating that such creatures are believed to be heavily muscular. The figure in the photo, however, appears to be quite slim, again as Yarcofin pointed out. It lacks the solidness that has been an identifying feature of Bigfoot et al and is far more similar to the slight musculature of a human than of any known ape. These reasons, the proportions of the figures arms and its relatively undeveloped musculature, strongly suggest that this figure depicts a human and not an unknown species of ape.

The final aspect of this image which suggests a human is the figure's posture. Due to the fact that they employ their front limbs for locomotion, apes invariably lean forward when in motion or at rest. The following image of a gorilla clearly demonstrates this:



Even chimpanzees, who are similar to us in so many ways and are known to stand on their hind legs for prolonged periods of time, would not lean backwards the way the figure in the photo is doing. The reason for this is that, apart from humans who are bipedal, primate hips are designed for quadrupedal locomotion:



Given the way the figure in the photo is standing, it is impossible for it to represent any type of known ape, or even anything that comes close. Its stance strongly suggests that it is a human, since humans are the only primates who utilise bipedal locomotion exclusively. But again, perhaps the Skunk Ape is some blend of human and ape characteristics. It is true that accounts of Bigfoot often feature an upright, bipedal animal. But again, these creatures are inevitably powerfully-built animals, very unlike the slim figure seen in the photo. In addition, previous reports of the Skunk Ape have depicted it as leaning forward in a more traditional ape-like fashion. Take the following photo of
Myakka, for example:



Or the following photo of a reputed Skunk Ape taken by Dave Shealy himself, which shows a forward-leaning animal with what appears to be a small tail that most likely represents an escaped baboon or orang-utan or simply a person in a costume:



The fact that the figure in the original photo is leaning backwards suggests that its skeletal structure is more similar to that of a human than any other type of primate. This also runs counter to prior reports of the Florida Skunk Ape, which often suggest a more traditional ape-like creature. The figure's proportions are far closer to that of a human than an ape and are also not in line with reports of a heavily-muscled Bigfoot et al. Finally, the figure's arms are too short to be those of any known ape and closely coincide with the length of human arms. All of these factors, when taken together, strongly lead me to believe that this is a human dressed in a costume, posing for the photograph.

[edit on 10/10/05 by Jeremiah25]


reply posted on 15-10-2005 @ 01:28 PM by Becon of Light
Hey folks.. nice to see the skunkape has found it's way to ATS. i live just about an hour from the swamp where the skunkape is said to live.. and a friend of mine.. Rubee Jawbotic, he is an indy rapper. has done a documentary on the subject of ol' skunkbutt here.. cant remember the name of the doc off hand, but it has past the post-pro/distribution point and is available.. i will look for the name when i get home from work tonight, but you should be able to find info on it at his bands site

audiocomposersleague.com...

Hey guess what.. just popped into the site.. and the info is right there
10.15.2005

Rubee Jawbotic comes back from the swamp with a full length documentary on the Everglades most elusive creature. "The Ochoppee Skunk Ape" is coming!!!April 05, soundtrack by Rubee Jawbotic


That having been said.. has anyone thought that maybe this critter is a slightly more evolved sub-human primate? alittle farther along then other similar creatures.. and it is florida mind you.. it could very well be a member of a family of inbred humans with a wild genetic hair growth problem

anyways, thats my two cents.. hope you all the enjoy rubee's doc, i know Rub to be two things.. an artist, and a beliver in the skunk ape.. so regardless of the truth, the doc is worth seeing



reply posted on 3-11-2005 @ 06:47 AM by Jeremiah25
Originally posted by Wig
Jeremiah, you can't dismiss an unknown species simply by saying you think it should have longer arms (well you can if you want, I just disgaree). The whole point about bipeds is that they don't need long arms.


Oh, of course. Obviously an unknown species such as the Skunk Ape, Bigfoot, et al defies conventional analysis of its physical characteristics because ... well ... it's unknown. In pointing out that its arms were in proportion to human arms, I was merely indicating that the creature was not an ape in the traditional sense, since apes possess relatively long arms. Whatever the creature is, it is clearly a bipedal creature. However, I feel that the slim proportions of the creature in the photo suggest a human rather than an image of Bigfoot or the Skunk Ape as they are traditionally described.


The problem with them being of similar proportion to humans is that no-one will believe any picture or video unless it shows undoubtedly their huge size, by for example walking along and then reaching up to grab a branch in a tree. The branch could then be measured and shown to be maybe 12 feet above ground.


The reason for this is simply that Bigfoot et al is typically described as being significantly larger than a human, both in terms of height and build. Therefore, when I see an image of a creature whose build is more akin to that of a human than a lesser primate, I tend to dismiss the Bigfoot possibility, given that it runs counter to the majority of reported sightings of that creature.


Personally I believe they have the ability to be invisible or teleport themselves.


Why do you believe this? The reason I ask is that no known creature on Earth has the ability to turn invisible or teleport. Do you believe this creature to be spiritual or extra-dimensional in nature? If so, why do you believe this?
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