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Bush says torture is ok

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posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 08:58 PM
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I understand the flip side of the coin. If someone knows something, and they won't tell, what's one life to save thousands? Millions?

But...personally...oh hell no. Souls aside, I couldn't have that on my conscience.

And just what ground is torture based on? Greedy people trading money for flawed information just to keep their own hides off of the table. But perhaps most that are tortured (those that DO know something), from what we know about Al-Quida, will they talk?




posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Rouschkateer
I understand the flip side of the coin. If someone knows something, and they won't tell, what's one life to save thousands? Millions?

But...personally...oh hell no. Souls aside, I couldn't have that on my conscience.

And just what ground is torture based on? Greedy people trading money for flawed information just to keep their own hides off of the table. But perhaps most that are tortured (those that DO know something), from what we know about Al-Quida, will they talk?




I still dont think we really know who Al Quida is

Call me a conspiracy nut, but personally, I think its just a bunch of 5th columns working for foreign and domestic intelligence agencies to push the super wealthys ideas forward.



posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:09 PM
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SO can we torture Bush to get info out of him? The people who support torture/Bush need to be tortured so they will stop supporting torture/Bush.



posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by magnito_student
I still dont think we really know who Al Quida is

Call me a conspiracy nut, but personally, I think its just a bunch of 5th columns working for foreign and domestic intelligence agencies to push the super wealthys ideas forward.


I think the people who hijacked the planes were sent as mind-controlled stooges by the CIA to provide the excuse to bring on the police state and foment war abroad, usher in the NWO. Probably the pilots themselves did it with no coercion from any boxcutters or whatever. Just like the school shooterse were mind-controlled stooges, poor kids who'd been tortured and programmed and sent out like zombies to do the job they were programmed to do in order to stir up support for gun control.

These people are evil. They have no regard for human life and are after total control -- body, mind and soul of everyone on Planet Earth, and they'd also like to just kill most of us off completely. Illuminati!

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posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by resistance

Originally posted by magnito_student
I still dont think we really know who Al Quida is

Call me a conspiracy nut, but personally, I think its just a bunch of 5th columns working for foreign and domestic intelligence agencies to push the super wealthys ideas forward.


I think the people who hijacked the planes were sent as mind-controlled stooges by the CIA to provide the excuse to bring on the police state and foment war abroad, usher in the NWO. Probably the pilots themselves did it with no coercion from any boxcutters or whatever. Just like the school shooterse were mind-controlled stooges, poor kids who'd been tortured and programmed and sent out like zombies to do the job they were programmed to do in order to stir up support for gun control.



Or the planes could have been steered by remote control. You wouldn't need to mind-program anyone.



posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:33 PM
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If you have time on your hand I’m all for more proven interrogation techniques, but in extreme circumstances where every second may count I’d be pretty tempted If I was an integrator, weather or not torture was legal.



posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:35 PM
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Amethyst -- The remote controlled planes? That's also a possibility. A good possibility. Boxcutters? I don't think so. Is is true these "terrorists" who were supposed to have died on the planes are showing up alive all over the place?



posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 09:54 PM
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Before everyone has a stroke here, how about taking notice that the article at PrisonPlanet was written for and was published iin World Socialist Web Site, perhaps the most unreliable source in the universe.



posted on Oct, 9 2005 @ 04:04 AM
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Sorry, but this topic already exists here on ATS and can be found here: Bush hasn't Vetoed anything, But he will Veto this???

Please post your thoughts and comments in the existing thread as this one will be closed.



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