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posted on Oct, 18 2005 @ 03:45 PM
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You are doing such an excellent job, if I wasn't running I would vote for you. You will probably win and that's fantastic because apparantly you know what's up and you've thought long and hard about how to improve pts. When you win (and I say that with confidence) i'm looking forward to seeing all the improvements and participating in pts even more.
Your very smart for your age even though your only 4 years younger then me (19), while I don't agree w/ your politics, I respect your perspectives and I know you won't try to bring bias to the pts community.

Here's to you Odium, Cheers!




posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by TrueLies
You are doing such an excellent job, if I wasn't running I would vote for you. You will probably win and that's fantastic because apparantly you know what's up and you've thought long and hard about how to improve pts. When you win (and I say that with confidence) i'm looking forward to seeing all the improvements and participating in pts even more.


Thank you very much mate, it means a lot and I know you will do just as good a job in charge of PTS as anyone else could. That's the important thing between the three of us running, we all want to see what is best for PTS and I hope that we can do such a thing.

As for me winning? I'd never say that for sure, we all stand a damn high chance of winning and it'll be a very close race.

Best of luck.


Originally posted by TrueLies
Your very smart for your age even though your only 4 years younger then me (19), while I don't agree w/ your politics, I respect your perspectives and I know you won't try to bring bias to the pts community.

Here's to you Odium, Cheers!


Same goes for you mate and thank you. :-)

Cheers...



posted on Oct, 19 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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The Future for Politics at AboveTopSecret.com

Forum Layout for PTS.
    General Forum
    Introductions
    Board Questions & Business
    ATS Council Forum [1]
    Member PODcasts

    Current Events Forums
    Breaking Political News

    General Political Discussion
    North American Politics
    South American Politics
    European Politics
    Middle Eastern Politics
    Asian Politics
    African Politics
    World Politics and Organisations. [2]

    United States Politics
    -Laws [3]
    United Kingdom Politics
    -Laws [3]

    Political Figures
    -Interviews [4]

    Political Ideology
    Slug-Fest
    Conservative
    Liberal
    Socialist
    Moderate
    Other Ideologies

    Political Issues
    Medical Issues
    Social Issues
    Environmental Issues
    Economic Issues
    Military & Security Issues
    Energy & Science Issues
    Religion in Government Issues
[1] I believe, we need a forum where the Council and the Members can talk between one another, to discuss what they want, how the whole process is going and so on and so fourth. Also why not have it on PTS?
[2] I would like to see this forum used to discuss organisations such as the World Health Organisation, United Nation’s, World Bank and so on and so fourth.
[3] I wish to see a sub-forum, with its own FSME in the U.K. and U.S. Political threads, that’ll focus on all the new laws which are getting passed. On ATS recently, I have noticed increased debate on the American Constitution and if Laws are unconstitutional and I think this is needed to help organise the forums.
[4] This, primarily will be a rarely used sub-forum, where any “Political Figures” can be interviewed. I would like a creation of a new input form like that which is used for ATSNN articles, where you can simply put Your Name, Interviewees Name, Question and then Answer.

I removed the “General Ideological Topics” forum, because it really has no purpose and has a vast majority of the PTS posts within it. If someone wishes to talk about the merits and failings of a particular ideology, they should conduct it in the forum where that ideology falls under. If they wish to talk about the merits of “Liberalism” than do it in the “Liberal” forum not another forum which will only lead to unnecessary confusion.

I would like to see and FSME placed in each area of PTS, like what is done with ATS. Someone who understands the principles of an ideology and will be able to help others understand it. I would like to see this, to help new members and to also help older members who do not understand “Socialism”.

I would also like to see a thread at the top of each area explaining the “Politics” of that “forum” and in the “Regional” forums, I would like to see a thread displaying a “Fact book” on every Nation which falls under that region.

I would like to see a PTS award, like that of the TWATS award but split, one for ATS and one for PTS. Also, as suggested by SpookyVince, I would like to see a “Hall of Fame”, where both ATS and PTS winners would forever be remembered.

I want to see stronger enforcement by the moderators, where posts are moved to PTS when they primarily deal with politics and not the other areas. Otherwise many of the forums have no worth. I would also like to see a majority of the posts dealing with laws in the U.S/U.K. moved to the sub-forums, so that they are in the right place. Too many times, have fantastic posts been lost in the N.W.O. forum because their relevance is not in that area but more of a legal issue.

These are the things, I want to bring to PTS along with any ideas and contributions from the members and administration. I know, at first it looks like a long list which could be heavily time consuming but it is something I feel needs to be done and as a councillor, I feel I need to layout my own plans for PTS so you can see what I want to bring and know what you are voting for.

Thank you all,
Peter J. Sanford.



posted on Oct, 31 2005 @ 02:46 AM
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I want to wish the best of luck to everyone who has taken part in this recent round of elections - we have all done a fantastic job and I hope that we all get out there and vote!



posted on Oct, 31 2005 @ 03:42 AM
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Yeah everyone....vote for Odium or ummm... well or I'll stick my tongue out at you


Seriously he's the bestest

don't get me wrong I like the other candidates but Odium is "da Man"

[edit on 31-10-2005 by Mayet]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 04:55 AM
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i just voted


Go odium



posted on Nov, 16 2005 @ 05:36 PM
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I would like to take the time out to thank anyone and everyone who voted for me and tok part in the Council Elections.


Let us all hope we can work together to make ATS, PTS and BTS a better place for us all.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 06:02 PM
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What is your actual political stance? What is your opinon on the cigarette ban, whilst there's plans to open up 24 hour pubs?



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
What is your actual political stance?


I'm a Neo-Socialist. Basically, it is a more modern form of Socialism which I have yet to fully identify on here. I am morally a Conservative and a Liberal depending on the issue. Support Direct Democracy and Proportial Reprosentation [combined] as my form of Government.


Originally posted by MacDonagh
What is your opinon on the cigarette ban,


After working in a pub I agree with it. Around here there are not many jobs that pay enough for me to afford to learn and the time I spent working in a pub I learned how much I hate smoking and I think the ban will be a good thing.

However, people will just go outside and smoke and the pubs will make a way to make sure they stay warm and dry even in the Winter so they can do this. I think it is a good thing.


Originally posted by MacDonagh
whilst there's plans to open up 24 hour pubs?


It really depends on how they do it, around here they are trying a new system where the pubs 'empty' out at different times. This caused a 'stagger' effect, so people did not all 'leave' at once and I do believe the ban will help do this.

However, I see it just resulting in even more drunks and a 'quick' fix for the Government to gain some more tax money with a new licence and a way to 'boost' employment.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 06:22 PM
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Yeah, I sort of get you. But can Socialism work? I think it can, like in Venezuala, Hugo Chavez I think is a socialist. I'd search up, but my computer is getting "jammy".
But sadly, people are greedy, selfish bastards. I refer to them as "They". A social/politcal (non) entity and "Our" enemy. Lol, I've just been developing my own conspiracy theory, after reading an awesome book by a bloke called Zinoviev.
Do you believe in conspiracies and if so, what sort?



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
Yeah, I sort of get you. But can Socialism work?


I tend to think so, if a system of Government really is for the betterment of the whole population, then in the long run it will work. It is just a question of if it is better or not.


Originally posted by MacDonagh
I think it can, like in Venezuala, Hugo Chavez I think is a socialist. I'd search up, but my computer is getting "jammy".


In some respects he is, he is moving a lot of private industry such as the oil based industry to the Government and spending the profit on making the country better. [In idea.]


Originally posted by MacDonagh
But sadly, people are greedy, selfish bastards. I refer to them as "They". A social/politcal (non) entity and "Our" enemy. Lol, I've just been developing my own conspiracy theory, after reading an awesome book by a bloke called Zinoviev.


Most of that is to do with how we are raised, things like greed do not exist in all cultures but we like to think they do as it stops us from 'hating' ourselves. Mostly it boils down to the process of socialisation.


Originally posted by MacDonagh
Do you believe in conspiracies and if so, what sort?


I do, primarily Government based ones on things like the N.W.O. and how power remains always in the hands of the same people.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 08:10 AM
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How do I vote? And will it be counted or lost?



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
How do I vote? And will it be counted or lost?


I already won my seat.


It is between Mayet and D.J as to who gets the ATSNN seat before the Council will be fully up and running.



posted on Nov, 18 2005 @ 08:40 AM
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Lol, congrats. You'd probebly quite good as a member of the PTS council.



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