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Originally posted by The Middle Kingdom
Next, utilizing nukes if we ever attempted to reclaim Taiwan forcefully would lead to the deaths of millions of American lives regardless.
Finally, if America does it GRADUALLY over 2 decades then we'll have ample warning and switch to other nations to trade with over and equally gradual time frame thus neutering the effect. After all our trade with Japan and the EU and other Asian countries is growing at a veeeerrrrrry fast rate.
Next, just as I may have no facts to back up an conversion to a more service based economy, you have equally little or no facts to back up your case. Bush has just visited China and agreed to various agreements to BOOST economic trade and improve bilateral relations.
I'm using a different computer ATM and cannot tell if you've edited your posts or not. As for the post I was looking for it was the Taiwan one and I couldn't find it.
Those 2 Generals have no chance in hell of ever getting active commands again as far as we are concerned, but remeber they spoke out of their private opinions not be considered as being part of our foreign policy.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Chinas growing energy need alone is going to be interesting to watch. China's demand for oil in China is growing at a blistering rate, about 30% to 40% a year.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
It's really not a question, it's supply and demand. If you "dump" a trillion dollars worth of anything on a market, the sale value will go down. It's basic supply and demand.
Actually, there are more parallels to Japan then you may think. I would point out the number of bad loans as one such example.
Again, I would point to India as one such nation with a very large population that the US would rather give it's business to in the long run.
Again, I dissagree. India, Brazil, Argentina, and a small group of African nations all could replace China.
And thus was the main reason they were there
Like I said, if another nation were given our business, they would also have a huge incrrease in buying power.
Yes, but most of that buying power is based on the west buying it's cheap goods. If the west were to do business with another nation, that other nation would take a huge part of Chinas buying power.
We don't. They do
But it is plain to see that China is Australias biggest threat (At least as far as nation states go).
And yet South Korea depends on the US to protect them from NK. They are reliant on the US for survival. They are at our mercy.
I didn't mention them. However, the US does have a large military force in Australia.
Of course not. However, it is indicative of the level of political sway the US possesses in those nations.
The problem isn't Americas, it is Chinas. What is China going to do - force the world to buy from China?
No, they have already made their choice. They have ALL sided with the US.
And how exactly does China have more money then the US?
I have. They all seem to think the US is an infinitely better ally then China.
It is clearly China, and is pretty much agreed on by everyone.
These are not contridictory things. The UK was always among the worlds great naval powers, and yet has been the greatest ally of the US.
Well, that is your opinion. I would argue that niether China nor India will be able to afford an arms race with the US - a nation with several times the economic size and a multi-trillion dollar R&D infrastructure lead.
Taiwan can be defended without a single soldier... Simply agree to respond to an invasion with nuclear retaliation would negate the need for any actual military presence.
Except that they do not, and in all likely hood will not, need to make that choice.
That is a hell of an assumption. It is just - if not MORE - likely that China will be driven into an economic correction in the next decade and will there for have less to spend.
In case you haven't noticed, the US military machine isn't really effected by distances.
Originally posted by thecry
If there is going to be a new super power then I say give our business to India,let them become the next world super power. why I say this?
1.They are not a communist country like China.
3.With India being a super power in the middle east hopefully it will draw attention away from the U.S and force terrorist groups to fight against India as the new enemy on the block