POLITICS: Poll: Bush Is Losing The Support Of His Core

A recent poll has shown that President Bush is losing support from the groups that propelled him to a second term. Evangelicals, Republican women, Southerners and other groups have expressed thier disappointment with his performance and question the direction the country is heading. Only 28 percent of those polled felt the nation was on the right track.



An OP/ED I wrote last year spoke of the growing divide within the Republican Party. The moderates and the conservatives were at the time gearing up to do battle along ideological grounds with the direction of the future party at stake. We have seen many skirmishes to date, but the true battle began with Delay's indictment. The fractures are growing wider and the looming battle within the party over the Mieres nomination will be interesting to say the least. Much of it will not spill out to the mainstream press, but its going to get ugly. Counties with conservative directors here in the Bay Area are already starting thier attack campaign. So you have a scenario looming in which the moderates and Democrats will vote Mieres in, and not the conservatives of the party, further widening the growing chasm in the GOP. The biggest point in this article is that among Republicans his approval rating has dropped below 50 percent. That speaks volumes.

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Nothing much to say about the article, but edit the "loosing" to "losing"

Title and intro

He wont be re-elected again, but anyone who serves as president of the United States leaves a legacy behind, history.
Mr. Bush should try to straighten some things up before his time is up.

Look at the names associated here, Bush, Cheney, Rove, sounds like a Sci Fi Special on a rainny Saturday evening...

I pray for him that he says something or does something the world can remember him by. Something positive.

Get ready for another 911 type of event. He will put on the tough guy, I'll save you hat and his poll numbers will soar once again. The public is so easily manipulated. Don't underestimate the cleverness and ruthlessness of the neo-cons.

If another Attack happens on American soil it will be widely seen as another failure on His administrations part. That's the feeling I get post-Katrina...

Nominating Miers was probably the worst political mistake Bush has ever made. You really start getting into trouble as a politician when you alienate your base, and the Miers pick has done just that. He could have picked a strong conservative judge with a clear conservative judicial voting record such as a Priscilla Owen or Janice Rogers Brown and really rallied the base around him for a big fight with the Dems, but this choice just leaves his supporters (including myself) scratching their heads.

My own personal disappointments with Bush:

1. Borders & ports still largely wide open
2. Iraq not handled well
3. Lack of global support for Iraq war (not really his fault)
4. High fuel prices; tough winter ahead
5. Harriet Miers

That's off the top of my head. Enuf for now.

This is one Southern Christian who is pretty tired of this administration. Then again, he does as he is expected by the Big Boys, just as Clinton did, and just as Bush 41 did. The list goes way on back, but that is far enough.
The point of the matter is, he was expected to be a Conservative and as close to a Constitutionalist as one can get in this state of government, but he has failed miserably.

Why wouldn't he have lost the support of the "core supporters"? My support was waning early into the first term!

Pretty much concur with your assessment TC. Seems to me Bush is to much the lackey of big business and the Neo-cons. I'm very concerned about our economy and where it appears to be headed. I think Bush means well, but he's just sort of dumb.

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the sad thing about bush is he is such a fragile personality, chronically insecure,( unable to admit to a mistake is a sure sign of it) that he could unravel before his term is out, but what is more likely is that he will go to his death bed insisting he did everything right. He is lamost a hamlet like figure without the charisma.

Bush made a mistake with Miers. The left dont trust her because they dont know enough and same with the right. Also, regardless of political philosophy I would think that it would of been smart to appoint a proven conservative judge that has publicly written his opinions on cases before.

Regardless of philosophy you only want the best and brightest on the supreme court.

thanks,
drfunk

U.S. MOST IMPORTANT PROBLEM

War in Iraq
Now
18%
9/2005
13%

Economy and jobs
Now
16%
9/2005
14%

Gas/oil crisis
Now
5%
9/2005
9%

President Bush
Now
5%
9/2005
5%

Terrorism
Now
4%
9/2005
6%

Yes, you read those last two correctly. The US public now sees George Bush as a bigger problem facing the the country than TERRORISM.

Personally, I don't see a difference. They're one in the same.

Of course Bush is losing the support of his base. God forbid there be compromise and these fanatics not have ABSOLUTE power in this country. So this is all about getting rid abortion right? And these are the people always bringing up the "rule of the majority"? Methinks they need to look at some poll numbers when it comes to the abortion issue.

That being said I still think Miers is a trap. It's just that the dems don't realize it and the conservatives aren't in on it. Just because the lady had a few out-of-lockstep views 15 years ago doesn't mean she hasn't changed. Changed significantly...

Hey, Flinx -- I'm prolife to the core, and I hate Bush. I never voted for him (voted Peroutka twice). I don't know why all these so-called "conservatives" have stuck with him. I guess they figured they had nowhere else to go. We certainly can't go with the proabort, Christian-hating socialists.

When he sat back and let poor Terri Schiavo be starved and dehydrated to death on 24-hour TV over nine days, while guards were posted around the woman's bed to keep her poor parents from slipping her an ice chip -- when this was done in HIS BROTHER'S STATE -- that tells you something. This guy is no prolifer and he's no Christian and he's just an evil Illuminati dupe like his father was.

From what I've read, they're all dupes. The shadow government is what runs everything anyway.

Originally posted by Flinx
...That being said I still think Miers is a trap. It's just that the dems don't realize it and the conservatives aren't in on it. Just because the lady had a few out-of-lockstep views 15 years ago doesn't mean she hasn't changed. Changed significantly...

I agree wholeheartedly. There's a good reason no evangelicals have been nominated to the supreme court in 70 years...

People are overlooking this important fact.

Originally posted by ShakyaHeir
I agree wholeheartedly. There's a good reason no evangelicals have been nominated to the supreme court in 70 years...

People are overlooking this important fact.

Were they before that? Doubtful.

The first "evangelical" President of the United States was Jimmy Carter. People overlook that too. Plus the fact that none wore their proselytizing on their sleeve (which is a different word than "faith") prior to Bush 43 (though Reagan alluded to shades of Revelation). This tax supported Faith Based proselytizing Presidency we're currently enjoying though is revolutionary in terms of separations repeal and it's pure revisionism to say otherwise. The change has been gradual enough though since Nixon's introduction of Billy Graham to America on "the TV screen" to make many think otherwise. Plus, we have all those circa 1950 anti-Communism statues, plaques and pledges around now to make people with long term memory loss think Jesus founded America Himself.

One thing you can count on though is "evangelicals" to disagree. Even with each other as to what one is.

Factually, it's a little more than an homage to Lutheranism or his evangelische kirche. Thus in a sense, one may accurately describe all protestants (or non-Catholic Christians) as evangelicals (though I never heard the word used in my traditional, non-activist, non-Baptist church myself).

But as to what "the experts" will tell you (yes, the anti-experts have experts too)...

They estimate that about 5% of the population, and 11% of all Protestants meet their rather specific definition.

Which is pretty darn specific as screening beliefs go.

~They have been "born again;" i.e. they have been saved by having trusted Jesus as Lord and Savior.
~"...their faith is very important in their life today."
~They feel that they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs with non-Christians.
~They believe that Satan exists as a living entity.
~The Bible is accurate in all it teaches.
~They believe that salvation is possible only through grace, not by personal effort or works.
~They believe that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth.
~They believe that God: Exists, Created the universe, Is omniscient, omnipotent and perfect, and Rules the universe today.

Some of those are really a tough sell. But sell they do. That and a lot of disinformation as well. So much so that people that aren't even "evangelicals" (much less bother to go to church) think that they are, and that they've always run the country, and it's now a requirement for both the Presidency and SCOTUS to come from that little 5% of the population that believes Satan lives under their bed (literally) and must meet the approval of character "experts" like Pat Robertson and James Dobson.

Insane.

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Originally posted by FredT
Bush Is Losing The Support Of His Core

It's about time! Of all those times I asked, - When are people going to wake up!?!?! Looks like the time has finally come.

Originally posted by RANT
Plus the fact that none wore their proselytizing on their sleeve (which is a different word than "faith") prior to Bush 43 (though Reagan alluded to shades of Revelation). This tax supported Faith Based proselytizing Presidency we're currently enjoying though is revolutionary in terms of separations repeal and it's pure revisionism to say otherwise.

That's the difference. I don't care what religion the president is but it shouldn't be the main platform of the man!

Well they maybe losing their faith of the born again Christan president but the same way they pay for Bush way to the white house the are going to pay somebody else way again, occurs another Republican.

Frist and DeLay are "Unavailable" for comments so I wonder who will be their next born again Christian candidate for president

They will try again and again.

Originally posted by marg6043
Well they maybe losing their faith of the born again Christan president but the same way they pay for Bush way to the white house the are going to pay somebody else way again, occurs another Republican.

Frist and DeLay are "Unavailable" for comments so I wonder who will be their next born again Christian candidate for president

They will try again and again.

I think the Republicans are going to be defeated en masse in the next election.

Tom DeLay and Trent Lott are good, decent and sincere people IMO. That's why they were/are being shot down because this president is pure evil. Frist is Bush's kind of guy. Trent wasn't.

Originally posted by resistance
I think the Republicans are going to be defeated en masse in the next election.

Hey we meet again.. Do you think this is being done on purpose so Hillery will have a landslide win if she runs in 08?

..and Bill Clinton in the UN in 08.

Im not say the race is rigged or any thing...