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Originally posted by junglejake
GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.
The claim is that this passage, specifically verse 9, demonstrates that trees were created after man. However, if you take into account the original passage from Genesis 1 and verse 6 from this passage, you have to ask yourself, watered what? Why did the surface of the Earth have to be watered, if there were no trees or shrubs? Ahh, Genesis 1:11 shows what; grass, shrubs, and trees. They didn't exist before Gen 2:6, but that was because it didn't rain and the plants couldn't get water. It was only after the streams came up that the vegetation could grow.
That still doesn't explain verse 9 in the passage above, though. For that, we have to look at both verse 8 and verse 9. It says God planted a garden in the east. This isn't to say there was no vegetation anywhere else; only that He chose a special spot to plant a garden. So it appears man was created before the trees had grown into something pleasing to the eye in the Garden of Eden, but that doesn't negate any presence of vegetation throughout the rest of the world. It doesn't even negate trees being in the Garden of Eden, only that they weren't too pretty.
Originally posted by junglejake
In trying to maintain as many of the rules as I can in this post, I'll say I actually spoke about this on another thread, though it was pretty burried in there.
Originally posted by junglejake
GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.
The claim is that this passage, specifically verse 9, demonstrates that trees were created after man. However, if you take into account the original passage from Genesis 1 and verse 6 from this passage, you have to ask yourself, watered what? Why did the surface of the Earth have to be watered, if there were no trees or shrubs? Ahh, Genesis 1:11 shows what; grass, shrubs, and trees. They didn't exist before Gen 2:6, but that was because it didn't rain and the plants couldn't get water. It was only after the streams came up that the vegetation could grow.
That still doesn't explain verse 9 in the passage above, though. For that, we have to look at both verse 8 and verse 9. It says God planted a garden in the east. This isn't to say there was no vegetation anywhere else; only that He chose a special spot to plant a garden. So it appears man was created before the trees had grown into something pleasing to the eye in the Garden of Eden, but that doesn't negate any presence of vegetation throughout the rest of the world. It doesn't even negate trees being in the Garden of Eden, only that they weren't too pretty.
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Originally posted by mrsdudara
I dont understand what your view on Adam is. You mentioned the same areas I am speaking of, but no answer on the question I asked. Can you please be a bit more clear? Are you saying that you just see it as a contradiction and nothing more?
Originally posted by Jehosephat
If you follow the cycle of Genesis chapter one " And there was evening, and there was morning—the ____ day." Man and woman were created on the sixth day. Chapter two goes into more detail of that sixth day. in a way you can think of it as a flashback.
The easyest way to explain the apparent conflict in chapter two is that God was allready thinking of how to create, and was even creating Man while God was starting to work on tree's and shrubs. Too often people think making man "In our own image" is a visual and physical image. But it can only be a SPIRITUAL image that God is talking about. Thus God was allready forming Adam in his mind while working on tree's and shrubs.
Man was formed and alive and THEN was placed in the Garden of Eden to work the soil after the trees were grown and name the animals when they were formed out of the dirt and borught to him
The question is, when is something "Created" is it when they are formed and are seperate from the creator? if that is the case Adam could have been still connected to the creator and thus not really created yet, until after all the animals were named
This is good insight.
Originally posted by Jehosephat
Thus God was allready forming Adam in his mind while working on tree's and shrubs.
I've considered this countless times. I think, at this point of my understanding, that 'creation' coincides with being 'named'. When God speaks a 'name' a soul is made--I say this from a metaphysical perspective, if you get the drift.
The question is, when is something "Created" is it when they are formed and are seperate from the creator? if that is the case Adam could have been still connected to the creator and thus not really created yet, until after all the animals were named
Originally posted by mrsdudara
So, to sum up, where you think it is a flashback, I have to disagree. I think it is a more detailed account. As it states in Gen 2:4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
Originally posted by Jehosephat
Too often people think making man "In our own image" is a visual and physical image. But it can only be a SPIRITUAL image that God is talking about.