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Originally posted by pasthomas
So carry on Catholic church because you are only living out the scripture that said in the end time men will be lover of pleasures more than God.
We should not expect much from the Catholic as quite a lot of their practices cannot be justified by the Bible.
Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by EricD
Who decides which is which please and how do they know for sure?
Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn
My question started with why are they keeping us steered to these scriptures and away from all the others in the Bible?
If they base their religion and our belief system is based on a book that they are now willing to admit is untrue; then what do they have to control the people?
Originally posted by Amethyst
The Catholic church has NEVER believed the Bible, if you want the truth.
They kept it out of the hands of the common people for centuries. That's what the Gunpowder Plot was about--King James' guys were translating the Bible into English, something that the Vatican frowned upon.
William Tyndale was burned at the stake for daring to translate the Bible. By Catholics I might add.
Now in order to look Christian, Catholics are encouraged to have Bible--but they have to have the priest "interpret" it for them.
Let me run down some Catholic teachings, and compare them with the King James Bible:
1) The Mass--supposedly the priest has the power to pull Christ down from heaven and sacrifice Him over and over again. Transubstantiation, bloodless sacrifice.
Hebrews 9:22--And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Hebrews 9:28--So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation (emphasis mine).
Hebrews 9:12, 14--But this man, after he had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER, sat down on the right hand of God;...For by ONE OFFERING he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (emphasis mine)
2) Worship of Mary/perpetual virginity of Mary/sinless Mary. I don't care if you call it worship, veneration, or what--all the same.
Mark 3:31-32--There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
Luke 1:46-47--And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. (If she was sinless, why did she need a Saviour?)
Luke 11:27-28--And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. but he said, Yea, rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
3) Idol/image veneration/worship
The Second Commandment forbids idolatry. Now in a sneaky move, the Catholic church takes out that commandment, and splits the one forbidding coveting into two parts.
Deuteronomy 5:21--Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet they neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maid-servant, his ox, or his @$$, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.
The "first" part of the "don't covet" commandment leave off at neighbor's wife. The "second" part picks up where that left off.
4) Prayers to saints
Job 15:15--Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
That's a few of them.