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Machine
As long as the church teaches solid biblical truths and practices in a Christian manner it’s well within God’s plan.
Queenannie38
But they don't. ++++
Originally posted by Machine
Either you are a liar or you have been to or investigated all the Christian churches of the world and found each one of them to be lacking in solid biblical truths. I’ll leave the readers to decide.
In Christ,
James
Originally posted by Machine
As long as the church teaches solid biblical truths and practices in a Christian manner it’s well within God’s plan.
Originally posted by queenannie38
That's what you claim, but cannot support in any satisfactory manner so far.
I'll give you that because universalism isn't Biblical.
As I recall, though, you never seem to go the distance with it--there are many verses that I have cited that you can't refute or explain according to what you feel is 'scriptural.'
We have already gone over that paticular question on other threads.
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Originally posted by dbrandt
You believe all, key word all, people will be saved and that there is no Biblical verses that refute this. In Revelation we are told that the false prophet and antichrist are in the Lake of Fire and will be tormented day and night forever and ever. That refutes universalism.
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
Originally posted by dbrandt
You believe all, key word all, people will be saved and that there is no Biblical verses that refute this. In Revelation we are told that the false prophet and antichrist are in the Lake of Fire and will be tormented day and night forever and ever. That refutes universalism.
I now have the perfect way to refute Christianity. Write a book that says Jesus doesn't exist, this will refute Christianity.
Originally posted by dbrandt
What?..........there are already enough of those.
Proper exegesis will show no conflict on this point. You choose one verse of a figurative nature as a refutation....yet ignore plain-spoken words by Isaiah, Paul, and various others. You pick and choose what you think supports your indoctrinated thinking. I just read the bible and I believe what it says.
Originally posted by dbrandt
You believe all, key word all, people will be saved and that there is no Biblical verses that refute this. In Revelation we are told that the false prophet and antichrist are in the Lake of Fire and will be tormented day and night forever and ever. That refutes universalism.
I'm not spinning anything. It's called exegesis, study, and open-mindedness.
You can try to put a good spin on that but it's not the truth.
It is possible to read a verse and rationalize it to where it makes God into who you want Him to be and what you want Him to be like and how you want Him to act.
And you continue to do so.
I've done that before.
Truth cannot be destroyed.
But that destroys the truth.
You're taking on something that is not yours to take on. You have one responsibility, first and foremost, to other people. Same one as all of us. Commanded by Christ. Love your neighbor as yourself. So far you have judged your neighbor, but that's not love.
It also relieves us of the responsibilty of telling people plainly that they are lost without Christ and need a Savior.
No, you are here to love. You cannot serve meat while you still drink milk.
But that is why we are here to warn people that there is an eternal place of seperation from God that is escapable through Christ.
Queenannie38
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: --Romans 3:22 KJV
Plain spoken words. No rationalization required to understand--for there is no difference.
Originally posted by queenannie38
You're taking on something that is not yours to take on.
It also relieves us of the responsibilty of telling people plainly that they are lost without Christ and need a Savior.
Originally posted by dbrandt
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15-16
Wrong, we are told by Christ to go into all the world. If you love someone you don't want them to go to hell for eternity. So you will tell them about the salvation in Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
If you do not tell someone about Jesus Christ then he won't be able to "beliveth not", so by telling this person you are giving them the opportunity to deny Christ, while if they were ignorant they could have not.