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SCI/TECH: Scientist Discovers Perfectly Preserved Prehistoric Spider In Amber.

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posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 08:17 AM
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A four centimetre long by two centimetres wide spider has been discovered by Dr David Penney of the University of Manchester in England. The ancient spider was trapped and preserved in amber and Dr Penney has successfully extracted blood samples from the spider, dating it at 20 million years old. The discovery could lead to the spider's DNA to be extracted from the amber, allowing scientists to recreate a cloned speciman not unlike the Spielberg movie Jurassic Park.
 



www.abc.net.au
A British scientist has revealed he has discovered a prehistoric spider preserved in amber, possibly meaning its DNA could be extracted - just as in the blockbuster film Jurassic Park.

The scientist, from the University of Manchester in northern England, extracted blood droplets to determine its age.

Dr Penney said he used the blood to fathom when, where and how the spider died.

"It's amazing to think that a single piece of amber with a single spider in it can open up a window into what was going on 20 million years ago," he said.

He saw the fossil during a visit to a museum in the Dominican Republic two years ago.

It is a new species from the filistatidae family commonly found in the Caribbean and South America.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


The scientist discovered the spider on a visit to a Dominican Republic museum and Dr Penney believes the spider was climbing a tree when it was hit by fast flowing resin, causing the spider to die and be preserved by the amber.

[edit on 1-10-2005 by Mayet]




posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 08:24 AM
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Little do scientists know..after they clone this spider it will grow to 200 feet long and it will feast on HUMAN FLESH!!!!!

This is a cool story. I wonder what we will learn from this spider. And if it looks cool, then I want one as a pet.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by GottCompton
Little do scientists know..after they clone this spider it will grow to 200 feet long and it will feast on HUMAN FLESH!!!!!


LMFAO!!


"The spider, 3 inches across when it died, was but a mere baby fresh out of the egg-sac. And once fully grown? 200ft long and severely pissed off!"

If what you say is true, we'll have to call the Japanese and get them to send Godzilla over to do battle with it.



Thanks for the laugh.


[edit on 2005-10-1 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 10:12 AM
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This is very cool.
Are there any pictures of this available?



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 10:54 AM
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Well, get ready for the news. Because they've already done this same type DNA testing on a honeybee preserved in Amber that was about the same age of 20 million years old. I almost quote: "The DNA was virtually identical to modern day honeybees."

These are the issues that never really get addressed in evolution as far as I'm concerned. I don't think anybody is going to argue that 20 million years isn't plenty of time for a given species to evolve. So in the grand scheme of "survival of the fittest" I'm assuming we will eventually all evolve to honeybees.

Or spiders when the same findings come out on this deal.

In preparation for my higher state I had a honeybee tattood on my right hip years ago. I'm good to go.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by ValhallIn preparation for my higher state I had a honeybee tattood on my right hip years ago. I'm good to go.



and the song Honey From The Bee takes on a whole new meaning



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall
I almost quote: "The DNA was virtually identical to modern day honeybees."

These are the issues that never really get addressed in evolution as far as I'm concerned. .


If there is no need for change, there will be no change.
Croc's have been the same for 250 million years.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by Valhall
I almost quote: "The DNA was virtually identical to modern day honeybees."

These are the issues that never really get addressed in evolution as far as I'm concerned. .


If there is no need for change, there will be no change.
Croc's have been the same for 250 million years.


It really doesn't fit well with the theory of evolution though. But on a personal note, if I have my druthers...I'd druther I turn into a honeybee. Spiders are icky and have too many hairy legs, and crocs...well, they eat people.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 11:58 AM
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Nice to give Spielberg a plug for the movie, but it was the book by Michael Crichton where the plotline of pulling DNA from the pre-historic mosquito in amber came from. Mosquitoes that suck blood holding the DNA of other species. Is this a blood sucking spider?

Any preserved species will get us giant steps forward in clues.


A nanotech story for Halloween?


Michael Crichton, Novelist, Becomes Senate Witness





[edit on 1-10-2005 by psyopswatcher]



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by Valhall
I almost quote: "The DNA was virtually identical to modern day honeybees."

These are the issues that never really get addressed in evolution as far as I'm concerned. .


If there is no need for change, there will be no change.
Croc's have been the same for 250 million years.


It really doesn't fit well with the theory of evolution though. But on a personal note, if I have my druthers...I'd druther I turn into a honeybee. Spiders are icky and have too many hairy legs, and crocs...well, they eat people.


Why doesn't it fit with the theory of evolution? It merely means that there hasn't been a better way for a bee to do what a bee does, that its environment and the criteria of form and function, hasn't changed significantly.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:08 PM
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Wow, that's pretty amazing!!

I can see it now....the spider will be cloned and eventually escape. Then a new race of spiders will poplulate wherever and screw mother nature..

It's possible



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:10 PM
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I agee with Jadette. Evolution wil not occure if it is not needed. Something reamaining the same for 20 million years does not refute evolution.
As Jadette said; why doesnt it fit in with evolution?



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:12 PM
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It really doesn't fit well with the theory of evolution though. But on a personal note, if I have my druthers...I'd druther I turn into a honeybee. Spiders are icky and have too many hairy legs, and crocs...well, they eat people.


I think this is a case of if it aint broke why fix it.The bee is very well adapted to its enviroment, so until the enviroment changes the bee is unlikely to change as its doing well the way it is.Now take algea, perfectly adapted to its enviroment virtually unchanged in billions of years.There is nothing at all in evolutionary theory that requires all organisms to evolve at the same rate, or at all. That some modern species resemble their ancestral fossils is not a big deal to anyone who's familiar to the in's and out's of evolution.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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Does anyone know if it is possible to extract DNA from blood inside a mosquito which it has ingested as is done in J Park?



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:30 PM
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Picture on the story:




posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by The_Modulus
Does anyone know if it is possible to extract DNA from blood inside a mosquito which it has ingested as is done in J Park?


Might be a question for these guys, TM:



www.foresight.org...



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