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Originally posted by ArchAngel
Could you explain how you know without your having been a member of the military?
Read these.
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
Unlike you, these men have proven their identity, and their statements are damning.
Originally posted by seattlelaw
Tell me this, when you meet another soldier for the fist time aren't the first issues discussed who you are with, where you did basic, how long you've been in, what "s-it" you've been in, and maybe where you're originally from, etc.? It's a bonding exercise. Your already on the same team but you intentionally seek to deepen the bond. He might save your butt down the road.
Originally posted by seattlelaw
Originally posted by ArchAngel
Could you explain how you know without your having been a member of the military?
Read these.
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
Unlike you, these men have proven their identity, and their statements are damning.
Those links don't open for me. Unfortunately.
we would have done it at the start,
If we wanted that we could have done so, easily and efficiently.
The iraqi people as a whole" hate the british,
I'd rather say live and let live
But for those who would threaten my family
There's nothing I won't give
(Chorus)
I will fight for my country
I'll defend this land
I will stare at the whites of your soldiers' eyes
With this Kalishnikov in my hand
Originally posted by Bikereddie
And have you been conditioned to support the terorist's?
I would think so going by some of the remarks you have made.
It works both ways you know................
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Well thanks for the info because a part of me did suspect they where something more than plane SAS. They where two men, where they should be four. What kind of soldiers are these. Psy-op grade.
You tried, you've been trying for the last two years, belive me i witnessed it all. Since the Churches where bombed, something was up.
You guys are just soo perfect at everything aren't you? If you wanted to do something, it would have already happened a thousand years ago. It's not possible that you tried and failed and had to keep trying.
If you think it is a peace of cake, but you underestimate how much iraqies love their country and how much that brings them together, Something which you claimed you agree with me on. So you see it's not so easy is it?
YOu and your tim collins, you know what, i'm going to read about this tim collins since you insist so so much. Yes he has expetional lack of credibility. but hey , maybe if i give your source a chance, you'll give the resistance a chance? how about it.
I never ever said that, and i would never say that because it sin't true,
the Iraqi people don't hate any particular race or country, they hate imperialist governments of certain nations.
Iraqies, including the resistance, send there respect out to those in the britain and in the US who apposed the war. You say Iraqies just want to live, but i think most know that self determination is something worth fighting for.
You think the resistance are in the minority you are in for a rude awakening. People don't like to be medled with. YOu have no right.
[edit on 1-10-2005 by Syrian Sister]
Originally posted by seattlelaw
Originally posted by ArchAngel
Could you explain how you know without your having been a member of the military?
Read these.
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
Unlike you, these men have proven their identity, and their statements are damning.
Those links don't open for me. Unfortunately.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
So how is it that i have been conditioned.
i am surrounded by western media.
The only access to other sources i have is through the internet, and you have that same access.
heh, i'm not the one who went through dehuminisation training.
quote: Originally posted by Syrian Sister
And just so you know in future, being a martyr has nothing to do with killing yourself. It's if you get Killed by another force, when fighting for something.
Originally posted by ArchAngel
Could you explain how you know without your having been a member of the military?
Read these.
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
hrw.org...
Unlike you, these men have proven their identity, and their statements are damning.
What I am saying is atleast 4 men on the ground at onc
believe me no one knows about british intel operations until they are done.
If we wanted to do something now all we need to do is do it
I gave them a chance before believe it or not, I did not want my troops there after I learned we were lied to but I changed that.
Afrter I seen some of the acts commited
by helping iraqis and get
I never ever said that, and i would never say that because it sin't true,
Nethier did i!
But, dont think for a second that they "The iraqi people as a whole" hate the british
Yeah and its worth fighting against the insurgency who's only goal seems to be putting who THEY want in power, not what the iraqi people want.
We dont like to be threatened,
You continue to point out the fact that you are behind your so called freedom fighters, not just in this thread, but in past threads.
You have your ideals set into your mind by the sensationalism of the so called freedom fighters, whom you so radically support.
All you have is the word of these people.
and have conditioned you into believing that is it OK to kill in the name of your God and to gain martyrdom.
Yet you have stated that to become a martyr, is not by killing others.
They are, and have conditioned you into believing that is it OK to kill in the name of your God and to gain martyrdom.
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
It was your own people who said they where SAS, but now you say they only send out 4 SAS at a time. Hmmm but there was only 2 men, sounds like a psy-op mission.
Spies move alone. Sabatuers sometimes have more.
heh last time we knew before they where done.
Yeah you want to start civil war, and you are Doing it. It just takes more that being "the strongest military force in the world" to turn brother against brother.
That's not giving them a chance, that's giving the anti bush a chance, not the pro resistance.
If you want to give them a chance and be true to your word, watch this.
www.informationclearinghouse.info...
They never commited those acts you accuse them off.
helping iraqies by killing them?
I didn't accuse you of saying it. You accused ME of saying it. Don't you remember?
uhuh. now you remember.
Like the Us wanting to put their style of regime in Iraq? The last thing the US want is democracy in Iraq. The resistance isn't fighting for anything but liberating their country.
If you notice the resistance doesn't have on leadership, it doesn't have one ideology, it doesn't have one political party or drive. If the resistance where after power, they would be collaborating with the US.
No the only thing the resistance wants, is to free their country from occupation.
nobody threatened you. And there was obviously, no WMD's to threaten you with.
[edit on 3-10-2005 by Syrian Sister]