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Is NASA pro-alien?

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posted on Sep, 30 2005 @ 05:49 PM
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Thanks T! Appreciate ya being here and answering questions first-hand.


Originally posted by T_Jesus
I'd also like to say that some of these issues are only on the minds of those who run NASA, typical researchers like myself don't pay a whole lot of attention to such things...it's a paycheck.


Gotcha. I was more specifically wondering if someone there was looking to boost that paycheck by spurring public interest and/or imagination about alien life. I'm not talking about a massive curtaining campaign to release false information that aliens do exist to light the fire and are then denying it so that no proof would be asked for, I'm talking about little pokes and prods here in the public eye to say, "this is amazing stuff folks! We could discover alien life! Write to your congressman today
" but with a more subtle approach. That website was on queue for what I was thinking to confirm, yes, something like that is going on. My next question is, to what extent? And, is there any representation from NASA pokin' at D.C. whether direct or indirect to support the endevour?


Originally posted by T_Jesus
As for covering up alien life forms yada yada...I'd have to personally talk to the astronauts who allegedly claimed anything. Although I think it's fairly obvious that there is something out there, I am not convinced anything is covered up. You may believe an article on the internet, however, I don't. I've talked to a few astronauts, but I've never heard anything out of the norm...but, I probably wouldn't even bring the subject up myself


I don't believe NASA is covering up alien life, because it would lllloooooaaaaddd up funding for their special projects pockets for many a decade. In fact, I'd go as far to ask, did NASA kick up a post Air-Force project in the hopes of finding something that would help them accomplish this goal?

I suppose it's all fair economics. Deep down, we want to believe, therefore would incent NASA to get out there and find something, with Washington being the tool in-between. I'm just wondering if all this suggestive Sci-Fi and wishful thinking is making us see a whole lot more than is really there.

Is this making sense to anyone or is my thinking....alien...to y'all?



[edit on 30-9-2005 by saint4God]




posted on Sep, 30 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by mnicholas21

Responding to this quote: "I don't think most of the people working at NASA know the truth" -



Personally I dont think that any of you know the truth. Aliens are already here on this plant living among us. Yes they even work at NASA They will reveal themselves when the time is right. Until then just know Aliens do live among us in out everyday life. Trust me...





Dear M Nicholas-- Are you saying our military has been doing some strange breeding experiments? Is that what you mean? Like in Nevada in the underground tunnels?

The "Aliens" aren't extraterrestrial life. They are fallen angels who manifest and breed with humans, under the auspices of the secret military/Illuminati. We know the NWO is going to spring these hybrids on us and claim they are from another planet far off in the universe, people here to help and guide us into world peace.

Be warned. Refuse the mark.



posted on Sep, 30 2005 @ 07:30 PM
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On topic, eh?



posted on Sep, 30 2005 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Amorymeltzer
On topic, eh?


Sorry. Yes. NASA is pro-alien. They are part of the Illuminati and their purpose is to make it seem that aliens can travel through space and visit us. Without them the coming deception I described above would not be possible.

I was just responding to someone else that said the aliens are already here. I didn't realize your rules were so strict. But that's okay. I can live with the rules.

Thanks.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 01:02 AM
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publicly , they are towing the line of the 3monkeys hearno,seeno,speakno

privately , very privately , they may drop a hint

it all seems pretty stupid , cuz anyone with half a brain knows they've been around for years

but let's see , big business lying and looking stupid . hmmmmm , sounds normal to me !



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 08:21 AM
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Well, let's see if I can get a point across. I originally came from MA...people there are generally uninterested in the space program, many go so far as to say it's useless, a waste of money, yada yada. I do think some sort of educational promotion would benefit NASA in that the public needs to know the good coming from NASA. I really hate the media, and I'll tell you why. The media is about money, and not enough people realize this. When you sit around and eat dinner with friends, do you usually talk about how cool someone is or how good a person they are? No, if the topic arises, you're going to talk negative about a person, claim how much you hate them, etc etc. That is what the media does on a larger scale, hence why I despise the media.

I moved to FL to go to school, and then got a job at KSC. The people on the east coast in cities like Melbourne, Cocoa, and Titusville are typically excited about launches and often more educated about the good that comes from the space program. I wish others could share the enthusiasm about it and know that good does come from the space program.

The real issue in my mind is that the media is like "NASA launched a satellite today, a ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR SATELLITE" or something like that. Then when there's a shuttle disaster, they make it seem like it is a common occurance.

To sum it all up, yes, there needs to be awareness of the space program, and possibly from there the American public can grow to like it more and help prod the government to broaden the horizon. Like I said before, the plans aren't really up to me, it's up to the administration...there is little I could really do. Who knows...if someone did criticize from within, they might make us eat more cafeteria food



posted on Oct, 3 2005 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by T_Jesus
To sum it all up, yes, there needs to be awareness of the space program, and possibly from there the American public can grow to like it more and help prod the government to broaden the horizon.


*scribble scribble* Mmhmm, yeah, that's what I was looking for. Thanks!


Originally posted by T_Jesus
Like I said before, the plans aren't really up to me, it's up to the administration...there is little I could really do.


I think doing what's right is all that we could ever ask from anyone. I don't believe there are any small roles in the world and we all can make the difference. *searches for Dr. Martin Luther King transcripts*


Originally posted by T_Jesus
Who knows...if someone did criticize from within, they might make us eat more cafeteria food


Don't tell me, y'all get the tubed food they no longer serve the astronauts?

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Toasted, you said that publically they do the "3 monkey" thing, but it looks like per the website I linked, they're practically says "if you give us the money, we'll find your E.T.!" or am I missing something you're saying?



posted on Oct, 3 2005 @ 09:48 PM
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I think that nasa dose infact hide evidence of aliens. I think that we did infact land on the moon but we found aliens and ufos on the moon and the aliens told us to get of the moon. so nasa made a fake moon landing video to hide the evidence.


here are some links

www.think-aboutit.com...

and a better site

www.ufos-aliens.co.uk...



posted on Oct, 5 2005 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by the brain
I think that nasa dose infact hide evidence of aliens. I think that we did infact land on the moon but we found aliens and ufos on the moon and the aliens told us to get of the moon. so nasa made a fake moon landing video to hide the evidence.


here are some links

www.think-aboutit.com...

and a better site

www.ufos-aliens.co.uk...


You need to read William Cooper's site, the Hour of the Time. He was Naval Intelligence, and says the military is using mind control to make people think there are aliens and alien abductions. Why? Because the Illuminati have taken over most every part of the country -- science, education, media, medicine, finance, spiritual -- all of it. They are running the military and their loyalties are not to this country, but to a NWO. The "alien thing" is supposed to help bring this in.

The Illuminati are devil worshippers. They use advanced mind control techniques that have been developed since the Garden of Eden, with major advances in it discovered by the Nazis during WWII in the experiments of concentration camp inmates. Mengele was brought to the U.S. after WWII and his knowledge and expertise were put to the test. Mengele was given laboratories to continue his studies and programming of more victims. There have been thousands upon thousands of persons victimized by this.

The Illuminati is also breeding humans to manifested fallen angels. By torture and human sacrifice demons can be brought to materialize, and they are able to mate with humans. These are the hybrids the military and NASA will bring forth when they pull their alien invasion hoax.

Read these links on mind control and the Illuminati:

Svali interview
educate-yourself.org...

The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave
educate-yourself.org...

Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula
www.whale.to...

Monarch Mind Control Programming: What It Is
mindcontrolforums.com...

David Icke:
www.davidicke.com...



posted on Oct, 5 2005 @ 03:39 PM
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Please they already have mind control through commercialism and economic slavery...

They don't need some massive "alien illusion" to pull the NWO off.

In fact they are probably shocked at how well their plan has worked thus far with minimum violence used.

and there are many of us, like myself, that are immune to normal mind control techniques...

Methinks David Icke has targeted your brain with his own kind of paranoia WMD.

[edit on 5-10-2005 by TruthMagnet]



posted on Oct, 5 2005 @ 04:01 PM
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I would think so. Over the years public attention has decreased towards NASA and it's space exploration missions. Finding some form of alien life would surly jump-start the public intrest in NASA. More intrest would result in better funding. NASA looking for and finding alien life would certainly be a benifit for them, they have nothing to lose by finding it.

GoldEagle



posted on Oct, 5 2005 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by TruthMagnet
Please they already have mind control through commercialism and economic slavery...

They don't need some massive "alien illusion" to pull the NWO off.

In fact they are probably shocked at how well their plan has worked thus far with minimum violence used.

and there are many of us, like myself, that are immune to normal mind control techniques...

Methinks David Icke has targeted your brain with his own kind of paranoia WMD.

[edit on 5-10-2005 by TruthMagnet]


Well, Truth Magnet, staging an alien invasion is not "Normal mind control techniques." And just because you can shrug off the commercials on television does not mean you are immune to mind control. Anyone who is subjected to severe torture will crack, they will dissociate. The Illuminati owns all the drug companies and have many powerful hypnotic drugs that can also put anyone under their power. If they want to take you and break your mind and your will, they have the ability to do so at this moment. If your mind is shattered into many "alters" and each one of these is programmed to carry out certain functions (just like you'd program a computer) and all the alters are forbidden to communicate or even know about each other, and only one or two alters are allowed to "run the body" during the normal day -- don't think you are invincible to this. I don't see how anyone could be.



posted on Oct, 6 2005 @ 11:02 AM
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resistance,

I apologize for my antagonist stance on this - but you do realize you are basically calling all of us dupes here - when many of us have in fact done quite a lot of research on UFOs.

(and have come to a different conclusion than yours)

But as far as fighting mind control techniques, I have severe ADD and OCD and the weird synergy of these two mental disorders makes me very immune to the effects of most densensitizing drugs - I don't know the full biochemical reasoning for this, I just know from experience.

So sure - they could break me, then could even enslave me, but they couldn't do it without my knowledge or get me to mentally accept my situation.

And I do believe they will use an "Alien Threat" much like the "Terrorist Threat" as a way to control us in the future - but that in no way explains all the evidence currently out there that aliens are in fact visting us right now.

And as for David Icke, he couldn't pass a lie detector test if his life depended on it - otherwise why wouldn't he have done so by now?



posted on Oct, 7 2005 @ 11:50 AM
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TruthMagnet -- Mind Control is possible. Under extreme torture anyone's mind will dissociate (split). The splits are even easier to split. Then these split parts can be easily programmed, and under hypnosis if a split, an "alter" is told to dive to the bottom of the pile and don't rear its head unless told to, and is blocked off from all the other alters, bingo, no memory of the torture. All the memory is stored in that one alter who is "buried," and not allowed to surface unless commanded to do so. And that alter is powerless also, does not know there are other alters, and the other alters likewise are oblivious to the existance of any of the others. That's how mind control works. Divide and conquer.



posted on Oct, 7 2005 @ 01:27 PM
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Okay... I'l hafta take your word for it...

I don't see how they could effectively imploy such techniques on the populous at large however.



posted on Oct, 7 2005 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by TruthMagnet
Okay... I'l hafta take your word for it...

I don't see how they could effectively imploy such techniques on the populous at large however.



Do a Google search on DARPA, microchip. Explore the cutting edge website www.cuttingedge.org for more information on controlling the populace at large.

The plan is to eliminate most everyone on the planet, 90 percent of us, and the rest will all be mind-controlled. 30 years ago when Robert Ettenger (sp) started writing his wacky books on overpopulation (The Population Bomb, How to Survive on Spaceship Earth) -- many other nutty books, this man's ideas needed to be exposed for the nonsense they are. Instead, his lies were swallowed by a lot of people, and now we have a full-blown conspiracy to save the planet by killing most of the people on it.

The people at the top of this conspiracy know it ain't so -- but it makes a nice excuse for them to do what they want and satisfy their greed and craving for power and control.

We have only one hope at this point -- PRAYER. And lots of it. Time to get right with God while we still can.



posted on Oct, 20 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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resistance, wern't you already asked once to keep this on topic once? Knock it off, really.



posted on Oct, 20 2005 @ 04:07 PM
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Is NASA pro-alien?


Arthur C. Clarke seems to think so.


www.virtuallystrange.net...

Arthur C. Clarke says life exists on Mars

he stated: "I'm fairly convinced that we have discovered
life on Mars. There are some incredible photographs from [the
Jet Propulsion Laboratory], which to me are pretty convincing
proof of the existence of large forms of life on Mars! Have a
look at them. I don't see any other interpretation.")"


Honestly the photographic evidence is compelling.

www.xenotechresearch.com...

www.xenotechresearch.com...

marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov...



posted on Oct, 20 2005 @ 04:53 PM
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I would think that most people working at N.A.S.A. would be "pro-alien" as you put it. I mean why take a job at a entity whose main intrest is space exploration? Even if you were a paper-pusher, you could still feel that you were part of the main function. Also, if alien life were to be discovered, if it has'nt been already, it would probably boost the budget for further analysis. The only problem would be if the government would allow them to release such information.



posted on Oct, 24 2005 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by lost_shaman
Honestly the photographic evidence is compelling.

www.xenotechresearch.com...

www.xenotechresearch.com...

marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov...


Compelling...hm...wouldn't have been my adjective for it. Hey! I'll sell ya this bridge for a dollar!



Isn't it a beaut?! C'mon, how could you pass up the opportunity?



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