Thanks for your time djohnsto77. While we are still waiting for the study donations, the good news is South Park has just begun.

Anyone else?

[edit on 28-9-2005 by realrepublican]

Originally posted by realrepublican

: They're not upside down, they're just leaning to the RIGHT

Leaning to the right - I'll have to tilt my head first?

I think this was a political joke about the right-wing nature of the GOP

You posted several pictures of the Longhorns fans, players and students. But you did not answer my question. What do prominent political figures have to do with the Texas Longhorns University/Team? The answer of course is nothing. Clinton has no ties to Texas. Arafat doesn't. Bush doesn't either. Therefore the hand sign they use has a different meaning and interpretation to them.

Everyone in those pictures is doing the hook'em horns sign for love of team/school

Every politician and important public figure in the link I posted is doing a similar hand gesture but the motive is definetly different.

Why is this so hard to understand? Oh thats right, the thought of some satanic conspiracy is impossible based upon your personal understanding of past, current and future events as you see them. If Prince William was wearing a Longhorns shirt and doing the hand gesture FINE, same for all the others. But they aren't fans. Hell, they prolly don't even know there is a school that uses the hook'em horns sign as a rally cry.

It's like seeing a Native American and saying, "Hey he must be a redskins fan because he looks like their logo"

RebelSaint,

I somehow doubt there is a huge Satanic conspiracy infiltrating many of our world leaders and even beloved entertainers. Most of the Bush hand signals make since to me as representing, if not the specific Longhorns team and school, but Texas pride in general, because Bush along with his family happen to hail from Texas.

Now you got me on a lot of the other people doing the sign, but then again, there are plenty of hand signs out there and many of them have hundreds if not thousands of different meanings to different people. I somehow don't doubt that there could be some sort of mixup here. But hey, maybe you're right and there is some Satanic conspiracy? (But I disagree)

Lastly, some of these pictures on the website you posted don't even work. It's like the author tried to make it fit what he was saying so hard, he didn't even notice some things. For instance, any Spider-Man fan knows that he puts his hand in that position to activate his web-shooters by pressing some button in his palm. So, sorry about that one. It does resemble it though.

Stuart Little seems to be doing a completely different sign where you leave your thumb and pinkie finger out, which I believe means "hang loose" or something to that effect. Poor little Stuart suffers a missing finger however, being a mouse, so he doesn't do it quite as well, but it's the same sign nonetheless. I saw many people in Hawaii do that sign, and it certainly was nothing Satanic.

And just one more for you. The picture of Arafat was obviously taken while he was talking, and it doesn't even look like he's making a hand signal, it looks like he's just moving his hands while talking, and the camera happened to catch it in a relatively close position to that sign.

So overall, I find this conspiracy a little bit of a stretch.

My opinion............get rid of all parties and agendas and let the best man win!!!!!!! This is what divides our country!!!!

I wrote a pretty long post about Symbolism and its Uses which can explain how many of today's symbols thought to be evil actually had positive intent.

"They will say anything to try and prove how an upside-down pentacle is good." Ummm...they were considered good.


quote: Now, the pentagram. Why is it linked so heavily to evil? It has been used by almost every ancient culture. The Mayans used it. It has been used in India, China, and Egypt. It has been found on cave walls, in Babylonian drawings, and in Hebrew scriptures. Early Christians wore it as an emblem, maybe to symbolize the 5 wounds of Christ. The Jewish kabalistic tradition uses it. So has the Christians, Freemasons, Wiccians, Pagans, and yes...Satanists too. All used the pentagram at various times.
BUT, in thousands of years of history...the first connection to evil has only been in the 19th century, well AFTER almost every previous use of it.

Hi ZeddicusZulZorander

I was reading through the thread you started - people swung it off topic as usual. Let's go into some detail together.

Many Mystics or clairvoyants throughout all time have had the ability to see the chakras or sacred disks of other souls. Many Mystics will all agree that the pentagram is a symbol of black magic or a negative projection of some sort - yet ONLY when inverted. I have studied this for sometime and besides acting rather comical, I am a little concerned at just how gullible most people are when entering into the occult sciences.

For example: When someone has been cursed by black magician, the actual form or creation of that negative and powerful thought has used a type of ether form to allow it the strength to go to the other fellow and thus, attach itself to the corresponding chakras of him or her. Now depending what your culture is, you can see these thoughts appearing from the third eye and leave toward the person who is being attacked - these forms may appear as a snake, or of a coyote or black cloud depending on your culture religion, etc.

Now, let’s go deeper. I have noticed something common when you actually look upon the person's chakras. Well let’s say that the typical religious fanatic gives a hateful but less powerful thought for another person of another religion. The image will appear as a blue inverted pentagram on the victim's chakras. But if it is a black inverted pentagram, then that means that the black magician is trying to kill you. So, not only is the inverted pentagram itself almost definitively and symbolically evil or a sign of corruption of the Holy Spirit mind but the color itself also identifies the level of danger etc.

So let’s go back to what you're saying now. Some cultures may harmlessly use the inverted pentagram correct? Heck let's day these people really never understood that the Tree of Life of Kabala is supposed to always be right-side up. Ok, well fine I'll give them that much. But now we are also coming into an Age of Aquarius where the actions of many cannot ever be truly understood - so much confusion these days.

So how does one proceed? Well it is my believe that to proceed in this new age we first of all must learn to understand that the intention behind the action is VERY important. Sometimes the action is wrong but the person has great intent, right? But other times the actions seem harmless but the intention is dark in nature or opposes love.

Now assuming the intentions behind the action of much we are seeing today with not only the Republicans but many:

Since most Americans are of a Christian tradition of faith, does it not seem rather antagonistic if not downright insulting, that these rulers do not share the majority's faith and yet will not share with them anything? THEY - OUR ELECTED OFFICALS do this all too often and I think most Christian people have a right to know, don’t you?

I am not a Buddhist but when I enter the Monastery I will remove my shoes. I also do the same for the Muslims tradition when I enter in tot eh Mosque. So, how come our Great leaders are immune to offering the people of the America’s the same courtesy for the majority of the Christian people? Remember, the people of America do not need much else than the honest truth.

Do you have any idea at all?


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Originally posted by Oblivion
Now you got me on a lot of the other people doing the sign, but then again, there are plenty of hand signs out there and many of them have hundreds if not thousands of different meanings to different people. I somehow don't doubt that there could be some sort of mixup here. But hey, maybe you're right and there is some Satanic conspiracy? (But I disagree)

The thing about that is that you wouldn't think a public official who was a Satanist would give such obvious gestures of recognition in public. But on the other hand,hiding in plain sight is such a tried and true technique I wouldn't dismiss the idea that it's an open display of Satanism. Illuminati psychology is a beast.

Anyone have a true explanation as to why they decided to reverse the stars in the early 1990's? Hmmm, Masons?

If no-one on this forum can provide an answer of substance, don't be too worried about it. I have noticed that Satanists also use upside-down stars with no circle around it.


[edit on 30-9-2005 by realrepublican]

Originally posted by realrepublican
Anyone have a true explanation as to why they decided to reverse the stars in the early 1990's? Hmmm, Masons?

Why would the freemasons do this?

Masons didn't do this but it is being blamed on the Masons by those "others" who also consider themselves Mason. When the Masons finally understand what these sinister elements have planned for them, they will stand firm and be liberated from all this confusion. Until that time, they will be forever implicated.

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I think the focus should be on whats satanical about the democrat logo