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Has anyone ever tried the Gerson treatment for cancer?

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posted on Sep, 26 2005 @ 10:42 PM
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I was watching the tv the other day and watched a show about the Gerson Therapy, a treatment for cancer accidentally discovered in 1929 by a Dr. Max Gerson, it also cures a host of other illnesses. Anyway I just ordered his book and his daughters book and a juicer. Here is a link to the website about the treatment.
www.gerson.org...




posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 03:25 AM
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For anyone interested there is a clinic in Tiajuana that practices this but you can also do it on your own. Shortly after Max Gerson's book was published he died of arsenic poisoning, apparently murdered.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by goose
I was watching the tv the other day and watched a show about the Gerson Therapy, a treatment for cancer accidentally discovered in 1929 by a Dr. Max Gerson, it also cures a host of other illnesses. Anyway I just ordered his book and his daughters book and a juicer. Here is a link to the website about the treatment.
www.gerson.org...


It's Yet Another Sugar Pill. On one hand, good nutrition will get you through cancer treatments in better shape than those who don't exercise and get treatment, there is no substitute for modern medicine. I watched on a Christian prayer group as one mother (6 year old with aggressive cancer) nearly caused the death of her child with alternative therapies and prayer. When the little girl was so ill that an emergency room visit was necessary, the mom changed her mind about other treatments. The daughter is not in the clear yet, but is doing better.

The story about Schweitzer is bogus, by the way.

And (if you check up on some biochemistry) you'll find that the bit about the "stage two juicer" is completely bogus. The body has a wonderfully efficient juicer... your teeth and your digestive system.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 05:23 PM
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Well it may very well be but I'm still glad I ordered the juicer (its the kind they advise getting but much cheaper) as I think making ones own juice and drinking it fresh will be healthy.

I am going to read the books and share them with a family member who has cancer, so far they have not done anything at all for him other than remove a kidney, no chemo no radiation, nothing. At this point anything is better than nothing.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 05:29 PM
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My Aunt died because she trusted a Homeopath over her Cancer Specialist and the kicker of it was it was completely treatable by modern medicine if it was caugh early enough (and it was) she started treatments way too late.

You're literally playing Russian Roulette if you trust unproven methods over modern science.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 05:38 PM
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Yes but my uncle has had cancer for sometime now and they have done nothing along the lines of normal treatment for cancer. Why? I don't know. So I thought this might work, it is better than nothing.



posted on Sep, 28 2005 @ 08:28 AM
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Ugh. I also had relatives who trusted those kinds of things and ended up with complications that could have been prevented.

Good nutrition is a GREAT idea for anyone who's having medical treatment. And juice -- if the person LIKES juice -- is okay, too. It's kind of you to think of your uncle, but don't tell him that this is going to "cure" his cancer. He needs to stay on his treatments.

...and if they haven't given it normal cancer treatments do you know why? Sometimes it's a self-diagnosed cancer (where the person thinks they have cancer) and sometimes it's so tied up in the person's system that an operation would kill them outright. Do you know what the case is?



posted on Sep, 28 2005 @ 08:32 AM
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While many patients have made full recoveries practicing the Gerson Therapy on their own, for best results we encourage starting treatment at a Gerson Institute licensed treatment center.

Jee, I wonder if they accept insurance.

There's no black and white when it comes to alternative vs. modern medicine. Juicing reduces the chances of cancer and other diseases and so does taking some potent anti-oxidants.
As far as cancer and other degenerative diseases go, most "natural therapists" dont know what they're doing, especially the ones that claim they have the cure for everything. They're most probably selling something so beware.

A good example is this recent boom for Goji berries from the himalayas( grown in china). Ofcourse its claimed to cure cancer, heart disease, arthritis, etc.



posted on Sep, 28 2005 @ 08:53 AM
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i have never heard of gerson, but i would recommend you read up on someone called harry hoxey as his story & 'cure' is a fascinating story which certainly makes you think about who has your best interests at heart when it comes to cancer treatment



posted on Sep, 28 2005 @ 09:04 PM
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Check out this link.I posted it before without to much fanfare.He has been using the same treatment for 30 year and his research has been ignored while he is constantly getting results.

aca.ninemsn.com.au...

www.drholtsupport.com



posted on Sep, 28 2005 @ 10:09 PM
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My uncle had cancer that started in his kidney, they took it out and then he did not follow up apparently he did not realize he had to keep seeing the dr for treatments, the dr. did not alert him to this and he thought he was cured by the time he went back to the dr. it had spread to the other kidney and now spots of cancer is on his liver and lungs. He is refusing any treatment at this point, they just offered it to him apparently. I really don't blame him for refusing since it is already so far advanced why bother.

I am going to alert my aunt to this treatment so she can study and alert him to it but I doubt he will do it, especially since it is involving coffee enemas you know how most people are about enemas.



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Byrd

The story about Schweitzer is bogus, by the way.



Sorry for posting to an old thread. My wife is looking to all of this at the moment for her and my health. No major health issues - but poor diet has given us both a few problems and Gerson is one of the things she is looking into.

Anyway - I just wanted to comment as well on the Schweitzer comment because its a bit strangely specific for them to mention this if its made up without there being some sort of external reason. Anyway a quick google lead me to this site
www.skepdic.com...


Schweitzer believed that Gerson's diet therapy cured him of adult onset diabetes and cured his wife of tuberculosis. Schweitzer said of Gerson: ...I see in him one of the most eminent geniuses in the history of medicine. Many of his basic ideas have been adopted without having his name connected with them. Yet, he has achieved more than seemed possible under adverse conditions. He leaves a legacy which commands attention and which will assure him his due place. Those whom he has cured will now attest to the truth of his ideas. Apparently Schweitzer was referring to Gerson's cure for migraines,



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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Vitamins B17 and C.
Read this:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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reply to post by Mez353
 


Thank you for the link and information. I had read this one before on ATS and I found it very interesting.
It is sad to think that Gerson and this other guy could be on to something big but no one takes them seriously. I recently watched an interview from Gerson (the daughter) and she spent 20 min or so answering questions about test results and outside confirmation. She provided some there and then - said they document everything and get outside confirmation as well. The main problem is that what Dr. in the main stream wants their name attached to "alternative" treatment results... they lose credibility instantly.

Its a bit like being a Scientist and a Christian is taboo and if it happens your career is over instantly when someone find out.

Likewise a dentist (my wife is a dental nurse) cannot go against mainstream dental practice - no matter how much evidence against mercury fillings is given. If a dentist in Ireland or UK tells a patient that the filling could be hazardous to their health - they lose their license if its found out. (Google it if you don't believe me)

Anyway. I think there should be room in the modern world to be able to research these things on some level and without bias find out if there is something to it.

My wife is also watching programs by a guy called Paul Neson (Spelling?) He has a show called Raw Life - and the story he tells is about being diagnosed with Colitis or Crons - Chrons? And how the only option given to him by his Drs (more than one) was surgery and a reduced life span as well. He went on a health food diet and raw foods and has not looked back and he claims that he has not had any issues with his health since then.

First hand accounts of this sort should be reason for medical science to take notice to some level.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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I am watching this that i downloaded from youtube but notice it is also on NetFlix if you can get the us version of it. If i had known about this before my own father died of bowel cancer i would have stated him on it. The hospitals he went to were useless and from the day he was told he had cancer to the day he died was less than a year and he was a well built man but ended up like a skeleton when he passed away.
People might say why not try all the treatments that modern medical science has to offer? But many if not all are useless unless theyncan remove all the cancer cells or they will come back even worse.
My personal opinion is it is medical companies who sell the drugs for vast profits that are stopping this being more availiable to everyone who do not know about it.
After all, if someone you know are dying from cancer, what have they to loose from trying this treatment?
At the end of this documentary it states he fell ill twice and found before he died he had been poisened with arsenic!



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Has anyone tried Rick Simpsons cannabis oil treatment ?



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
My Aunt died because she trusted a Homeopath over her Cancer Specialist and the kicker of it was it was completely treatable by modern medicine if it was caugh early enough (and it was) she started treatments way too late.


The question is whether use of a particular substance to treat a disease has significant support in scientific studies either as an alternative treatment or complementary treatment. The question isn't whether a substance is a synthetic drug or a natural substance.

Unfortunately, many homeopaths and herbalists often do very little if any research at all in the medical journals. Their treatments are often based off of tradition, myths, legends, and poor secondary sources. There are all manner of published studies proving the efficacy of various herbal extracts and such in animal cancers. These rarely make it to human studies because they can't be patented and health care is centered around profit, not helping fellow man. There is little that's humanitarian or ethical in Western medicine. Dying people are often left with massive medical bills that completely rob the estate of the deceased individual so that relatives end up with nothing even if the person who died had a few hundred thousand dollars in his bank account before getting sick.

Just to give people an idea, there are synthetic antioxidants under development (e.g. STAZN) to treat patients who've just had a stroke in order to prevent brain damage. But we already have natural substances that are likely to be beneficial for this if the right little cocktail of them is given. Same with heat attack. If someone having a heart attack were given a few of the right antioxidants, it would likely significantly reduce the amount of heart tissue that is irreparably damaged.

Also, there's an herb called ashwagandha that's been shown to actually reconstruct damaged neural networks in animals. There still haven't been any humans studies. Why? Because it can't be patented. If animal studies are any indication, there's a good chance that millions of people with traumatic brain injuries could avert much of the permanent brain damage and have cognition restored if this was given soon enough after certain injuries to the brain.

Those are just a few examples. With regard to cancer specifically, most of the natural substances that have been shown effective in animal studies also work synergistically with the chemotherapy. And by the time you find half a dozen of these extracts or other natural chemicals that show repeated efficacy for cancer in animals, the chances that one or more of them will have benefit in a human is actually pretty good. On top of that, they tend to cost relatively little money, have general health benefits, and little to no side effects.



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