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Opinion surveys in the Arab world reveal great dislike, even hatred, for the United States. But the surveys also reveal enormous ignorance of what is actually going on in America, and between the U.S. and the Arab world. For example, most Arabs believe that Jews comprise over ten percent of the U.S. population (it’s actually two percent), control nearly half of Congress (only six percent are Jewish), and most of the American economy (again, it’s under ten percent). Anti-Semitism has long been popular in the Arab world. During World War II, many Arabs openly sided with the Nazis. Not just because Arabs resented British and French colonial influence in the Arab world, but because the Arabs and Nazis had similar attitudes towards Jews. Arabs were also hostile to Christians, as were the Nazis. Note that millions of Arabs were Jewish or Christian, but the hostility from Moslems had been driving them out of Arab areas for generations.
Originally posted by rstrik
This is not a surprise, I'm sure if you did the same poll with questions such as what % of Muslims are terrorist and what % of Middle Eastern people are actually Muslim type questions. This is the main reason why we will never co-exist peacefully, we don't have any interest in learning the truth about each other. I'm sure if you put me in the same room with a terrorist on his own and gave us something fun to do we would probably end up getting along pretty well barring any communication barriers.
Originally posted by Crakeur
Originally posted by rstrik
This is not a surprise, I'm sure if you did the same poll with questions such as what % of Muslims are terrorist and what % of Middle Eastern people are actually Muslim type questions. This is the main reason why we will never co-exist peacefully, we don't have any interest in learning the truth about each other. I'm sure if you put me in the same room with a terrorist on his own and gave us something fun to do we would probably end up getting along pretty well barring any communication barriers.
I highly doubt a game of parchesi with a suicide bomber would result in "good times"
you must remember that anyone willing to commit an act of terror is not on the same mental plane as the rest of society.
I do agree that the majority of our population is clueless however, the big difference between the two is that billy joe jim bob in rural missourah might think all middle eastern people are muslims but he probably wouldn't say they should all die because their religion (or beliefs) is (are)wrong in the eyes of his god. he might say they should all die because they are all terrorists but you can bet the farm that on 9/10/01 he wouldn't have even considered the notion that a middle eastern man might need to die because he's a terrorist. prior to 9/11 he probably couldn't even name three middle eastern countries
Originally posted by NWguy83
I think this is a great article it reveals just how ignorant some Arabs are. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
Originally posted by curme
I think it reveals on how poorly the US portrays itself in the Middle East. The disconnect between the US intentions, and it's perceptions (or maybe the perceptions are the intentions). The US definitely has a PR problem. Our foreign policy is really, really, inept. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
Originally posted by curme
I think it reveals on how poorly the US portrays itself in the Middle East. The disconnect between the US intentions, and it's perceptions (or maybe the perceptions are the intentions). The US definitely has a PR problem. Our foreign policy is really, really, inept. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
Originally posted by skippytjc
"portrays itself"
Please, the US isnt portaying itself, biased and agenda driven media portrays the US in these regions.
Originally posted by curme
Originally posted by NWguy83
I think this is a great article it reveals just how ignorant some Arabs are. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
I think it reveals on how poorly the US portrays itself in the Middle East. The disconnect between the US intentions, and it's perceptions (or maybe the perceptions are the intentions). The US definitely has a PR problem. Our foreign policy is really, really, inept. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
Originally posted by skippytjc
Originally posted by curme
I think it reveals on how poorly the US portrays itself in the Middle East. The disconnect between the US intentions, and it's perceptions (or maybe the perceptions are the intentions). The US definitely has a PR problem. Our foreign policy is really, really, inept. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
"portrays itself"
Please, the US isnt portaying itself, biased and agenda driven media portrays the US in these regions.
I bet the average Arab has no idea at all about what the typical American day is like or what we experience. And thats the medias fault.
Originally posted by Darkmind
Originally posted by skippytjc
Originally posted by curme
I think it reveals on how poorly the US portrays itself in the Middle East. The disconnect between the US intentions, and it's perceptions (or maybe the perceptions are the intentions). The US definitely has a PR problem. Our foreign policy is really, really, inept. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
"portrays itself"
Please, the US isnt portaying itself, biased and agenda driven media portrays the US in these regions.
I bet the average Arab has no idea at all about what the typical American day is like or what we experience. And thats the medias fault.
No, it is NOT the media's fault! It is a terrible fact of life that large chunks of the Muslim world is second and in some areas almost third world. They don't have the massive access to the internet that we in the West do. They don't have the access to the educational facilities that we do and they sure as hell don't have the basic freedoms that we do. They have a stereotypical view of the world, right? So does everyone else, it just depends on how much that view is bent out of shape, depending on how much information you have.
Local media will always have access to local information, but will struggle to put together information about foreign affairs. This is a global problem people. I'm a journalist - I have a degree in history, a love of geology, politics and geography and was nicknamed 'The Elephant's Child' by my family because I have a raging curiousity. I love reading about people's lives in far away places and I'm lucky in that I live in Britain, where the National newspapers have large foreign news sections. I've got it lucky here.
But when I was the States in 1990, and then in 1995, I was horrified by the lack of world news that was out there in the papers and the TV. It was almost all local and national. And there was no demand for international, or so it seemed to me. I've got cable here in London and I can access Fox and Global CNN. The latter has gone downhill a lot and the former made me ill the last time I looked as it was all one-way and one-eyed. There was no historical context, there was no "well Bob, things are screwed up in Arabville because of the effects of the whatever". It was all short segments and snapshots. That's not news, that's popcorn for the brain. Shoddy popcorn come to that.
I was at a terrorism seminar in Monte Carlo a fortnight ago and there was a terrorism expert speaking. He said that after 9/11 people were asking two questions - "why do they hate us" and "why can't they be more like us", without realising that the second question answered the first.
And I'd like to add something else. Perception of the US is very bad, and to a large extent it's because of the way that the US Army and Marines are fighting this war. There is a lack of leadership in that winning hearts and minds seems to be off the agenda. Boasting of a body count - and in fighting a domestic insurgency it can be very hard to work out who is a terrist and who is an innocent bystander caught in the crossfire - is NOT the right way to win over the locals. The fact that it seems to be taking 250,000 bullets to kill each 'terrorist' does not help either. (This was a headline in the Independent on Sunday, this weekend. Or was it the Observor? Depressed the hell out of me anyway.) It spreads the perception that the US Armed Foreces are trigger happy.
You can't blame the media. You need good news to spread, and at the moment the good is buried in the bad.
I bet the average Arab has no idea at all about what the typical American day is like or what we experience.
Originally posted by rstrik
This is not a surprise, I'm sure if you did the same poll with questions such as what % of Muslims are terrorist and what % of Middle Eastern people are actually Muslim type questions.
Originally posted by curme
I think it reveals on how poorly the US portrays itself in the Middle East. The disconnect between the US intentions, and it's perceptions (or maybe the perceptions are the intentions). The US definitely has a PR problem. Our foreign policy is really, really, inept. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.