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Hidden Records

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posted on Sep, 26 2005 @ 04:36 PM
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Just wondering if anyone here has read Wayne Herschel's book, the hidden records?

If you don't know about this book I can highly recommend it.
Herschel has gathered a lot of evidance to suggest that the Earth has been visited by people from another planet and that the pyramids of Egypt and South America are start maps (as others have suggested) He and his partner Birgitt Lederer believes they've pin pointed a particular star where these visitors come from.
I haven't finished it yet but I'm emgrossed.


The hidden Records:
ISBN: 0620308869




posted on Sep, 26 2005 @ 04:39 PM
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They came from a star or do you mean the system where that star is their sun?

Do you have the name of it so we can fidn a bit of info on it?



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 09:58 AM
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Yeah sorry, he believes that they come from a planet from the system the stary refers to.
I do not have a name for the star, he hasn't named it yet.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 10:35 AM
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Mmm, cant get in the UK

South african publishers. their agents in the UK are Heritage Marketing in Kings Lynn but nothing for title or auther on their web site. ;(

Any ideas.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Britman
Herschel has gathered a lot of evidance to suggest that the Earth has been visited by people from another planet

What is the best evidence that he presents??



posted on Sep, 28 2005 @ 03:22 PM
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It's difficult for me to explain.
The main evidance is the layout of the pyramids around the world. Most depict Orions belt, Taurus (the Bull) and the pliades.
He's decipherd a lot of the egyptian hyroglyphs and glyphs from other ancient civilizations they all seem to point to a star that the visitors came from. Orions belt is used as a marker in the night sky, the glyphs then tell how to find the visitors star once you've found orions belt. I'm only half way through the book.
He doesn't claim to be the first to think this, he give credit where it's due.

jehova620
I got my copy from Amazon UK, it took a few weeks to arrive as it was imported.
www.amazon.co.uk...=1127938895/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_8_1/026-7045871-6654059



posted on Sep, 29 2005 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Britman
He's decipherd a lot of the egyptian hyroglyphs and glyphs from other ancient civilizations


This ought to make you suspicious right there. There's a lot of hieroglyphics online (pictures of temples and things like this) and glyphs as well. Thanks to the Rosetta Stone, we do know how to read hieroglyphics. You should take the book and look for those signs in other places and see if his interpretation then makes sense. I'm betting that it doesn't.

Most of the time, people ignore what we already know and start to make up new things.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 03:37 PM
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He doesn't say the glyphs are wrong, in fact he relies on the way we interpet them to be the correct way. He just understands the story they are telling in a different way, a very logical way.
It is only a theory but if it gets more people studying it anf thinking outside the box then it a good thing.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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I ordered it last weekend. The site is allready very interesting, the book will go more deeply into it I hope.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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Herschel relies strongly on the suspension of disbelief amongst his fans. Taken as a whole, he offers an almost operatic portrayal of our history and space travelers from the past. He uses imagery from Sci-fi/fantasy movies to encourage identification with his interpretations. Now, most people would find it a leap of faith to accept Star Wars and National Treasure as scientific evidence of Martian pyramids and 'stormtrooper' helmets on Mars. He neatly sidesteps that doubt by inferring that Hollywood is an instrument of the Masons and is presenting reality as fiction.

If parts of his theories are isolated and investigated the whole fabric unravels and we're left with the pareidolia and misinterpretations of an enthusiastic mind.

His assertion that Cydonia and the 'face on Mars' are real evidence of interplanetary civilization falls flat at the first hurdle. The face on Mars has been imaged from many angles at various resolutions and is clearly a mesa...






The 'pyramids' on Mars have also been imaged many times and reveal themselves to be natural geological formations. Most images don't even lend themselves to the 'suggestion' of pyramids. Herschel overcomes these conflicts by using cherry picked over-processed images and using color to emphasize his interpretation.

These are used to support his claims that Egyptian and S. American pyramids are built by the same race that built them on Mars. By demonstrating that there are no pyramids on Mars, he has no argument. His references to alignments with Orion's belt reflecting those of the Martian pyramids no longer exists so he can't link it the the Egyptian pyramids. Furthermore, the concept that the Giza Plateau is designed to portray a 'star map' of the constellation Orion is not grounded in any evidence.

Mars doesn't have square miles of algae, pyramids, helmets or huge statues of Egyptian-style faces (any statues at all) so his contention that they are 'star maps' is based on non-existent evidence. We can see that a large part of the evidence he uses to claim the existence of 'hidden records' is actually absent. It's a house of cards.

I'm not dismissive of the enjoyment and wonder that can be found by reading his ideas. I grew up reading Charles Berlitz and dreamed about 'lost civilizations' and alien visitors. I still wonder about the alien visitors, but I'm now wholly convinced that there has never been a lost advanced civilization.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
Herschel relies strongly on the suspension of disbelief amongst his fans. Taken as a whole, he offers an almost operatic portrayal of our history and space travelers from the past. He uses imagery from Sci-fi/fantasy movies to encourage identification with ..........

........but I'm now wholly convinced that there has never been a lost advanced civilization.


Funny that I am totally convinced there WAS a lost civilization merely due to the hard evidence he gives.
Herschel relies strongly on the perfect correlation between the starmaps and layout of pyramids, ancient buildings, cydonia on mars (which by a lot of evidence and people are artificial) etc etc

Of course he will have his errors, like everyone. But instead of focussing on the errors I focus on the facts


Truly amazing!



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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Share your facts.



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
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Share your facts.



simple facts

have you read the site?

Other facts you can find on your own! Have a good search



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 07:56 AM
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Any fringe theorist can give same "hard facts" that Wayne Herschel states.

got anything that is credible?



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 08:33 AM
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oops

[edit on 1-4-2009 by Lunica]



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 08:33 AM
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These are pritty credible, hard facts, as simple as that.


Dont forget these sites where created a long time ago... Seems our history is a little different then we are learned in schools.










posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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How exactly does stellar alignment prove anything except the fact that the ancients could look up into the sky? Hell they could even do it *better* back in the good old days when light/smog pollution was zero.

Just curious. Because I dont understand it.



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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Yep they could see the stars and as far as we know for the AE and the Mesoamericans they arranged them into constellations that have nothing to do with the ones the modern world adapted from prevous creators (Bablyonians, Greeks etc)

A quick look shows that Tikal (Tikal the city of stone we see now was built between during the classical period 200-800 AD) and Angkor Wat (AW was built in the 12th century so I don't get the ancient connection!)

So Lunica define "long ago". The Pyramids at Giza date to around 4,500 years ago while AW is 800 years ago, and Tikal at best maybe 1,800 years.

Why is the AW map cut so you don't see the ruins to the north? I've been to AW there are ruins EVERYWHERE, why pick and choose? Ah to support by cherry picking data a previously determined outcome?

The same comments can be made for Tikal.

Giza tons of ruins are left off, why is that?



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by merka
How exactly does stellar alignment prove anything except the fact that the ancients could look up into the sky? Hell they could even do it *better* back in the good old days when light/smog pollution was zero.

Just curious. Because I dont understand it.


Well, why would ancient cultures without any telescopes or high technologie (as we have nowdays) put such an effort in copying the sky with this enormous building sites. Also it has been copied by more then one culture... And why do you see the pleiades coming back over and over again. And why do you see an exact copy of the pleiades on mars (cydonia). Whatever you think cydonia is, rocks or artificial, its very very odd those eye catching buildings/pyramides/"rocks" DO resemble it. Then its even more odd to see an exact copy of cydonia in avebury (south england). (google it, or just look here part 1 2 and 3
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It proves there is more going on then just the alligment.

The question raises again. WHY put effort in it? Why do we see it over and over again on earth? And why do we see it in those specific ancient made "monuments"?

I suggest you read the site "hidden records" again, in total, and ask these questions.
Then you will understand better I guess


Greetings Lunica



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I was just looking at these pics on the site and I must say they are amazing. They do seem to match up very well. I am going to have to order this book.

BTW I love your avatar



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