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reply posted on 27-9-2005 @ 01:02 AM by LordBucket
Did anyone actually read the FAQ?

>whose top speed is 50 km/h.

According to the FAQ, it's top speed is actually 110 km/h. (That's 68 mph for us Americans.) Don't get me wrong...nothing spectacular, but fast enough to be reasonable. Fast enough to take on the freeway.

>It costs more to run my scuba tank V-twin compressor
>and cascade tanks than it costs to run my Harley by a
>factor of 40 even at 5 bucks a gallon.

Read the FAQ. The AirCar refills it's tank for 1.5 euros. (That's approximately $1.80 for us Americans.)

>It's 5000psi tanks are major league explosive devices

So are gasoline tanks. Plus...again, read the FAQ. They claim their airtanks will withstand gunshots and flame.

>how about the guy that spends 15 to 20% of his income
>in one way shape or form on energy.

No kidding.

AirCar
200-300 kilometers on one tank (124-186 miles)
Refills an entire tank for 1.5 Euros ($1.80)

Let's say you drive 1000 miles per month. In the AirCar that will average you about $11.61.

Compare to my truck, which g ets about 22 miles per gallon. Gas is about $2.90 / gallon where I am right now. That's $131.82 to cover the same distance.





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reply posted on 27-9-2005 @ 08:14 AM by MudShark61
It seems to me that many of you have questions about TheAirCar. All of these questions can be answered at MDI's website www.theaircar.com... . The car, as it is made now, costs between $9500 and $10500 US. The cost to refill the tank, because it is basically an air compressor tank nothing to fancy, is about $3.00 US to fill and takes 3 minutes at a designated filling station. And if you like you can plug it in at night and that takes about 4 hours.

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reply posted on 27-9-2005 @ 03:48 PM by Murcielago
Originally posted by GemwolfThe looks? That'll change. It's a prototype... And it kinda reminds me of the Smart Car that took the world (well, South Africa at least) by storm a couple of years ago...
[edit on 27-9-2005 by Gemwolf]

that never made any impact in the US...at all. Pretty much, the only small Euro car that has it the mini copper.

That site is says it can take 5 1/2 hours to fill up, then below that it says 3 minutes...kind of a big difference.

and about that 5000psi tank...Holy Crap, that a torpedo waiting to be unleashed.

My vote for the next generation transportation power source, would be hydrogen fuel cells. The AirCar is a good concept...but it wont catch on.


reply posted on 27-9-2005 @ 05:06 PM by baked
Honestly, it looks like the toy car with the hole in the floor I bought for my 2 year old.

Imagine what the car would look like being T-boned or rear ended by a tractor trailer or any car going more than 25 mph. To make it safer would probably mean making it heavier and less efficient which would mean it would need to increase the size of the tank, car, and price to compensate. Then think of the bomb you'd be sitting on top of.

Like someone else said, the energy to compress the air has to come from somewhere, so, shall we burn more fossil fuels to power the needed increase in electricity or use probably the same amount of gas to power the air compressors?

I could see something like this working very well for something like a motor cycle or maybe a one or two person car which probably wouldn't sell well enough to keep investors interested. I think it might be practical for a bike thou.

I don't see anything wrong with enjoying motor sports. I love my Mustang and Jeep and so does my wife, it's my hobby. It has nothing to do with my penis or her lack there of one. The mustang probably burns 50 gals of gas a year because I try not to drive it that much. Most hotrod owners are probably the same way. You will say what you want thou so keep on generalizing and stereotyping.

There is another answer thou, for just the price of an engine modification. The environment would benefit as well. We all win!


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www.artistictreasure.com...

But nooooo.....................
We need to keep the taboo going about the fallacies of this plant.




reply posted on 27-9-2005 @ 05:51 PM by highgroundsys0p
My actual cost to fill a 72 cu ft scuba tank to only 2500 PSI is 6 bucks US. Not including equipment and certification. Maybe the French/Spanish get energy cheaper? On the explosive forces - an 80 cubic foot scuba tank at "only" 3000 PSI explodes with 1.3 millon pounds of force - google it cuz you won't believe me - that can blow a hook and ladder truck 60 feet straight up - US Navy says so. Ok so the Aircar runs carbon wrap tanks at 5000 PSI... think about it; can u say WMD? Think about the tank expanding from a normal size of 72 cu feet to over 20,000 cu feet in less than a tenth of a second - get the picture? McBoom - size large.
Now think about this - there's a phenom called expansion valve freeze up where when a tank valve sticks open and like 30 pounds of frost forms on the valve and tank very quickly - ever seen what low temp does to carbon fiber and epoxy - it cracks and fails very readily - ask any snowmobiler.
No siree LordBucket your desired AirCar is not safe at any speed - but your welcome to go to France and get one and shoot it all you want - but I suggest that if you actually DO the research you'll see the false economy in this puppy. It will be a footnote in automotive history like steam power for the same reason - BOOM. Chemical energy systems are used in cars for good reason - they work and are the best answer so far.
I'm done with this subject - till the next pipe dream needs a fixin'.
Ciao, Peace or pieces - dealer's choice.

BTW - Look into the finances - very bizzare roster and not US friendly at all.
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