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NEWS: Christian School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents

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posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 11:24 PM
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This is a private school. It is a Christian school. The majority of parents don't want their children exposed to a lifestyle that is a direct contradiction of the doctrines of their faith. Shame on the "parents" for trying to pull a fast one. There are plenty of schools that would embrace their proclivities and there was no reason at all for them to put that child at the center of a controversy. A case for child abuse could be made against them.




posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

A case for child abuse could be made against them.

Are you serious, Grady? Do you really mean that the parents should be prosecuted for child abuse in this case?



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Machine

It’s not uncommon at all for Christian schools to set high standards for admission that also bind the parents to strict guidelines. My wife and I had to complete several tests and two interviews in order to get our daughter into a highly sought after Christian school. The school binds the parents into a contractual agreement that is very strict and demands that we complete assignments and uphold Christian values in our lifestyle.



Just out of curiosity, would the Christian school your daughter attends accept the children of inter-racial parents?



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Hellmutt
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Are you serious, Grady?


No, I'm not serious, but the parents knew what they were doing and it was grossly unfair to subject the child to what they knew would be a humiliating experience. I have heard they do not plan to oppose the expulsion.

[edit on 2005/9/24 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
I hate those christians!! [...]Where is the love and equality for everyone??

Er, uhmmm.....


Machine
and uphold Christian values in our lifestyle

Whats unchristian about lesbianism??? This school is the one not upholding the christian lifestyle, and, considering that the parents wanted the kid in a christian school, they're probably glad to leave, this obviously isn't a very christian school. I don't recall christ ever saying 'punish the non-christians, don't forgive the sinners' etc. And, again, i don't recall him ever saying 'a family is a biological father and mother and their children,not lesbians, ewwwwwww'. If anything I'd think that the case is to be made that christ rejected the physical family as being supreme. These two lesbians and their kid are christians, they wanted the kid to go to a christian school they were such christians, they're part of the whole christian community and as such the demand of christ is for other christians to accept them, certianly not exile them from the community.

If anyone is to blame it’s her lesbian guardians who placed her in a school where she did not belong.

This child doesn't belong there and isn't a christian because neither of her parents have testicles????

grady philpott
exposed to a lifestyle that is a direct contradiction of the doctrines of their faith.

Where's it say this???

There are plenty of schools that would embrace their proclivities

And there are plenty of goodly christian schools that are actually loving and accepting and would take them in, as fellow christians.

A case for child abuse could be made against them.

Plainly and patently absurd. YOu are also effectively saying that gay parents can not raise their children christian, indeed, anyone who is a sinner cannot raise their children christian.

knew what they were doing and it was grossly unfair to subject the child to what they knew would be a humiliating experience

Obviously they had no idea about what would happen. This school obviously didn't interview the parents, else it would've been pretty dang obvious, no matter how butch one of them was!

I have heard they do not plan to oppose the expulsion.

Why the heck would they, they want their kid to get a goodly christian education, that place is just run by bigots.



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 12:40 PM
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I stick by the "private school....they can let in whom they please."

Noones denying them an education. There are public schools. What if it was an all gay school. Would straights be allowed in? Its a free country. Get used to it.



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 01:06 PM
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They've done the kid a favor. Who wants nitwits like this educating their children? Any Christian parent ought to pull their children out. Any Christian member of the faculty ought to resign in protest. Let the remainder stay and play "Christian". They all deserve each other.



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 01:40 PM
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I've been reading these posts and finally come to the conclusion that those who are against this school decision should maybe form a school where the children of alternative lifestyle guardians can be enrolled.

More hatred was spewed from the cons than the pros.

To all homos, both male and female: QUIT PUSHING YOURSELVES ON A HETERO SOCIETY! YOU'RE NOT NORMAL!



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Intelearthling
More hatred was spewed from the cons than the pros.


Well, you just balanced that one didn't you?



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Intelearthling
I've been reading these posts and finally come to the conclusion that those who are against this school decision should maybe form a school where the children of alternative lifestyle guardians can be enrolled.

More hatred was spewed from the cons than the pros.

To all homos, both male and female: QUIT PUSHING YOURSELVES ON A HETERO SOCIETY! YOU'RE NOT NORMAL!


Wow dude, you might take the title of biggest ahole on ats away from me, if you keep that up. I think it depends on how you define normal. I dont have a personal problem with gay people. I do think people should have the choice whether or not to allow them into their groups. Its still a free country.



posted on Sep, 25 2005 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Machine
I live in Upland, California which is a few minutes drive from Ontario where this Christian school is located. My four year old daughter currently attends a Christian school in Chino Hills, California but I actually investigated several schools in Ontario.

It’s not uncommon at all for Christian schools to set high standards for admission that also bind the parents to strict guidelines. My wife and I had to complete several tests and two interviews in order to get our daughter into a highly sought after Christian school. The school binds the parents into a contractual agreement that is very strict and demands that we complete assignments and uphold Christian values in our lifestyle.

I would have had it no other way. I wanted my daughter to attend a Christian school that had firm objective standards. This school made the right choice in standing by our Christian values and denying this child’s admission. I do feel sadness for this girl as she must be very confused over the matter. If anyone is to blame it’s her lesbian guardians who placed her in a school where she did not belong. What on earth were they thinking? I can only guess that her guardians are living under the illusion that they are also Christians. California has an unlimited supply of confessing Christians who deny their faith by living lives in direct disobedience to God.


I'm curious, since I went to a Christian middle school like this for a few years...

Does the school that your daughter is going to have Christian science books; you know, the ones that teach creationism instead of evolution?

And do you ever eat shrimp or other shellfish? Do you ever wear fabric blend clothing? If so then you are also living your life "in direct disobedience to God."

[edit on 25-9-2005 by ShakyaHeir]



posted on Sep, 25 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by curme
Just out of curiosity, would the Christian school your daughter attends accept the children of inter-racial parents?


oh thats rich, if your a christian who doesnt believe in homosexuality than your a rascist too!
yes i have been to christian schools and all races are welcome, they are all God's children and have commited no sin, homosexuals have. Im really tired of everybody saying christians are bigots because they think homosexuality is wrong, which it is it goes against the natural order otherwise it would be just as productive no?.



posted on Sep, 25 2005 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rikimaru

Originally posted by curme
Just out of curiosity, would the Christian school your daughter attends accept the children of inter-racial parents?


oh thats rich, if your a christian who doesnt believe in homosexuality than your a rascist too!
yes i have been to christian schools and all races are welcome, they are all God's children and have commited no sin, homosexuals have. Im really tired of everybody saying christians are bigots because they think homosexuality is wrong, which it is it goes against the natural order otherwise it would be just as productive no?.


If I recall correctly, Bob Jones University (where president GW kicked off his campaign) used to have a policy against interracial relationships.

I'd be willing to wager that if you randomly polled the same amount of people from say Synagogues and Churches there would be more racists in the second group. I'd also be willing to wager that if you were able to find out the religion of all the (racial) bigots (hating on homosexuals is still bigotry IMO) in America the VAST majority of them would be Christian, probably mostly Evangelical and Southern Baptist, and most likely all born-again.

I'm by no means saying that Christians are racist, what I am saying is that most racists are Christian.

This is just from personal experience thinking back on all the racists I've met and what their ethnic/religous cross-section of the population was. If you have any statistical information the proves the opposite based on primary sources (such as the Census) I'd love to see it.

[edit on 25-9-2005 by ShakyaHeir]



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 01:14 PM
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We truly are in the last days. Most of the people in this post are calling right wrong and wrong right. Jesus warned us that a time would come when mankind would become so wicked that all the thoughts of their collective minds would be nothing but evil continually. Anyone who practices a homosexual lifestyle will not inherit the kingdom of God. They are living in direct rebellion against God and have no place as members of any Christian church or school. If they were to repent and turn from their ungodly lifestyles then they could be allowed in but until that moment they have no place among Christian institutions.

Now, to answer some of your silly questions.




Curme Just out of curiosity, would the Christian school your daughter attends accept the children of inter-racial parents?


Here we go again. If a true Christian takes a stand against the ungodly behavior of a practicing homosexual he or she must be a bigot as well. There is nothing in my Bible that forbids interracial marriage. The Christian school my daughter attends has children from many different racial types. I’m glad that she has the opportunity to worship and play with these kids.

Furthermore the church that I attend is also racially mixed. My family looks at everyone through the eyes of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and he was not a racist!




ShakyaHeir I'm curious, since I went to a Christian middle school like this for a few years... Does the school that your daughter is going to have Christian science books; you know, the ones that teach creationism instead of evolution?


Of course, why would a good school teach lies to our children? A good school teaches good science not joke science like the concept of macro-evolution. I assure you that I will teach her everything concerning the evolutionary theory even the bad aspects of that theory.




ShakyaHeir And do you ever eat shrimp or other shellfish? Do you ever wear fabric blend clothing? If so then you are also living your life "in direct disobedience to God."


I do all that and nope I’m not living in direct disobedience to God. You obviously do not understand the Bible at all to have made such a silly statement. Don’t try and quote the Bible out of context with me I know my Bible from front to back and read it every day.


In Christ,
Machine



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 01:27 PM
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You think Christ would be ok with excluding this girl from a "Christian" school based upon the living arrangements of her parents? What better place to provide some positive influence to this little girl than a truly Christian school? Which this obviously isn't. But preaching to the choir is a lot safer, isn't it?



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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I keep reading a lot of the, "yeah, I know it's their policy; but,..."

No.

No "buts."

That's it.

That's all there is to it.

Who cares what Jesus would do? He is not here to do it. So, we have to go with what the school wishes, which is apparently pretty clear.

If you don't like it, don't go there and don't send your kids. Other than that, you're pretty much S.O.L. And, if you try to buck their system's rules and get caught, don't get all indignant like, "how dare you not let my kid go here..." They have rules, they are a private institution. Take your money and your lifestyle elsewhere.

By the by, I don't care if they are lesbians. I don't care if anyone disagrees with the school's particular brand of "christianity." None of the particulars actually matter here.

People need to realize that simple fact. NONE OF THE PARTICULARS MATTER.

All that matters here is the following:
1. A PRIVATE school has its own set of rules for allowing admission.
2. Those rules were broken.
3. The consequences were meted out.
4. End of story.

Talk about mountains and molehills. I would get it if this were a public school...



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Hamburglar
Who cares what Jesus would do?

Obviously they don't. Maybe the irony is too subtle?



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Hamburglar

All that matters here is the following:
1. A PRIVATE school has its own set of rules for allowing admission.
2. Those rules were broken.
3. The consequences were meted out.
4. End of story.


Exactly.

Don't forget. Those of us who 'preach' separation between church and state must respect that separation when it's turning the other way. Unless you support bible reading, prayer and ID in the public schools, you need to stop applying Constitutional principles to a Christian (or church) school. Keep the government out of it.

It's also not our place to apply our (non-Christian) morals to a Christian group. So, although we may think this is terribly immoral (and I think it is) we have no more right to force our morals on them than they do theirs on us.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Hamburglar
People need to realize that simple fact. NONE OF THE PARTICULARS MATTER.

All that matters here is the following:
1. A PRIVATE school has its own set of rules for allowing admission.
2. Those rules were broken.
3. The consequences were meted out.
4. End of story.

Talk about mountains and molehills. I would get it if this were a public school...


you hit the nail on the head. The particulars don't matter. This thread is just a test of who is Christian on ATS and who is not.

All the people who think this is horible don't like Christians anyhow. They are glad to see some troubles in Bibleland.

All the Christians are saying attaboy. Itsa bout time and all that.

So evryone just confirms their preset prejudices.



Same difference.



posted on Sep, 27 2005 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by tovenar
All the people who think this is horible don't like Christians anyhow. They are glad to see some troubles in Bibleland.

All the Christians are saying attaboy. Itsa bout time and all that.


Uhhh... I don't know if that's quite what I said, but erm...hmph.

Actually, I am an agnostic. I was raised in a Buddhist orphanage, then adopted by mixed-religion parents. One was Jewish, the other a self-described Gnostic-Unitarian Universalist.

So, no Christians here. Just think that the rules apply equally to all. Sometimes it sucks for you. Sometimes it sucks for me. Either way, in this case the policy is clearly outlined.

Much like the Taliban, it's tough but fair.

End of story.




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