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Pravda: Black Hole jet emission incoming

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posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 05:19 AM
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Pravda was, if not still, the voice of Russian gov. Mainstream as it gets.

I've noticed key info vanishing from Google, so check it now and someone post verification before it's gone.

The article is titled; "The sun does not behave while earth is threatened by dust cloud", dated 9/20/2005.

It cites astrophysicist Dr Albert Shervinsky saying NASA knows, but with-holds info to avert panic. It's due by 2014.

The cluster of black holes at the center of the galaxy had a rare jet emission of nebulaic type material. It's speculated that the dust cloud may be acidic, and affect the earth and sun dramatically.

Oddly, it matches a recent story from the most unreliable source in the USA, from Weekly World News. Desensitization?

www.pravda.ru... scroll down a ways, it's days old.

Christ in the tribulation predictions said "the powers of the heaven shall be moved"-Latin Vulgate wording, or "shaken" in other versions.

I speculated on various sites already that only 2 things can do that; a very gravitational object passing, or a black hole jet emission.

The article wasn't optimistic about anything surviving this, so, I'd guess the ETA date may be purposely overestimated as by 2014.

The afterlife we get is the one we earn here. Make peace with any ghosts you have.
www.ghostresearch.org...

See my other threads & posts.

[edit on 23-9-2005 by John bull 1]




posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 06:57 AM
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This Bible quote sounds unrealistic until now. But I figured it to be talking about some type of black hole event.

Now, with a BH jet emission on the way, that Dr Shervinsky said will be like "water when it hits ink", dissolving all in its' path, like us, it makes sense like never before.

"the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works that are in it shall be burnt up. Seeing then that all things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you be in holy conduct and godliness; Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of the Lord, by which the HEAVENS BEING ON FIRE shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with burning heat?"-2 Peter 3:10-12.

Life isn't the destination, it's the journey. Haunted site investigations find anomalous EMF readings in the 40+milligauss range, though the norm is 2.5 to 5 milligauss. Thermal fluxes intense enough to combust have been filmed at a haunted site on tv. It was the Discovery channel series of documentaries, like "A Haunting in Colorado" & "A Haunting in Georgia", (in which local ghosts were using the EMF portal to visit their old stomping grounds). Only really evil people need fear death.

Ding dong the freemason world of corrupt ruthless coverups is dead, hahaha, hohoho! (Their line is Oh we owe woe). Not in cansass anymore killers! Bye!



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by James J Dierbeck
Pravda was, if not still, the voice of Russian gov. Mainstream as it gets.


Not at all, it probably lies somewhere between a National Inquirer and a Weekly World News.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77

Not at all, it probably lies somewhere between a National Inquirer and a Weekly World News.



The assessment is correct. I have seen, over the years, some of the wildest stories on the net come out of PRAVDA. I would take anything they say with a tablespoon of salt.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by James J Dierbeck
Pravda was, if not still, the voice of Russian gov. Mainstream as it gets.

Most Russians and people from former soviet states (at least the many I know) think of Pravda (the news) as BS and see it as Russian propaganda......which is true, it is propaganda....some of it may be true, but for the most part it is blown out of proportion, at times to the point that makes the story seem like a sc-fi novel.....just like this story.

Note: Pravda in Russian means truth

[edit on 23/9/2005 by SportyMB]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 08:14 AM
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Don't drink the coolade just yet, folks.

Okay. This "chaos cloud" has raised its head several times across several threads over the past week here at ATS. It has already been debunked as pure fantasy and moved over to this thread at BTS. Basically, the story was full of demonstratable, glaring scientific errors and is completely false. Which, I guess, is good for us.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by SportyMB
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"Most Russians and people from former soviet states (at least the many I know) think of Pravda (the news) as BS and see it as Russian propaganda......which is true, it is propaganda
Note: Pravda in Russian means truth"


[b/] Right, GOV bs propaganda in the cold war era. But Russia is more open than the US gov with ufo info also. Characterizing it as tabloid is inaccurate.

BTW, I tried the link, and wrong language, so access Pravda via www.drudgereport.com... by scrolling down on the left.

Apparently the debunkers are stuck with name calling old Pravda to discredit this story. I'm old enough to have been hearing of Pravda since the 50s, and as a state run media, not as a "Weekly World News" type rig.

This story has only been on Pravda since the 20th, so previous reports of this must've been Weekly World News.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:00 AM
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here is an excellent article about this 'killer gas cloud': www.badastronomy.com...

The author of that article also wrote this book: Bad Astronomy, I highly recommend it


[edit on 9-23-2005 by Zion Mainframe]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Zion Mainframe
here is an excellent article about this 'killer gas cloud': www.badastronomy.com...



Nice try, but that professional debunking site (COINTELPRO), was debunking Weekly World News as unreliable, which it is. But the WWN article came out BEFORE Pravda VERIFIED the name of the Russian astrophysicist Dr Shervinsky, and his story, that the Cointelpro site positively debunked via calling all news from WWN bunk automatically.
I call it allowed desensitization via least credible media. But the Cointelpro attack site agenda is a match to what Dr Shervinsky said about NASA hiding the info.

Debunkers are stuck with the story this time, based on Pravda, not WWN & a Cointelpro attack site.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by James J Dierbeck
Debunkers are stuck with the story this time, based on Pravda, not WWN & a Cointelpro attack site.


Sorry mate, but it doesn't matter which source this story comes from, it is false nonetheless. As I said earlier, it is full of scientific errors. Regardless of its source, these obvious errors demonstrate the "chaos cloud" story to be completely fiction. Here is the thread, again, in which the cloud is debunked on its scientific merits, not on the source that brought us the story.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:32 AM
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Here is the Pravda story in full...notice how the paper actually distances itself and puts the onus on Cambridge astrophysicist Albert Shervinsky for the veracity of the threat. Mr. Shervinsky also hinted at a conspiracy of silence from NASA on this, but never mentioned the scientific community as a whole.

Who is Mr Shervinsky and what are his credentials?

english.pravda.ru...

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[edit on 23-9-2005 by masqua]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:49 AM
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If this is a real threat, then I would expect silence from those in the know. No one wants the entire world in panic about about an unstoppable Armageddon.

I have no idea if this is real, I do wish I had the tools to make the observations myself because I do find this story to be fascinating.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by masqua
Who is Mr Shervinsky and what are his credentials?


Well, it doesn't help that the story neglects to mention whether he is based out of Cambridge, Massachusetts or Cambridge University in England. A cursory Google search of Albert Shervinsky turns up no findings for the good doctor beyond his referral in this story.

An examination of Cambridge University's Institute of Astronomy staff listings reveals no Albert Shervinsky, nor does a similar examination of the Astrophysics staff listings. So, I think we can reasonably say that there is no astrophysicist named Dr Albert Shervinsky on the roster at Cambridge University.

In terms of Cambridge, Massachusetts, the most likely place for a prominent astrophysicist to be based out of would be MIT - the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. A search on their site for the name Albert Shervinsky returns no results, nor does the simpler search for the surname Shervinsky. There is no Albert Shervinsky at MIT's George R. Wallace, Jr. Astrophysical Observatory, nor is he listed as a member of the Astronomy & Astrophysics departments. Surely if such a prominent astrophysicist with "close ties to NASA" were based there, the search would return at least some results. Therefore, I think we can safely say that there is no astrophysicist named Dr Albert Shervinsky at MIT.

Given the fact that Dr Shervinsky is absent from the listings of the most logical places for him to be stationed at, combined with the fact that a Google search turns up no information on him beyond his referral in this story, we must conclude that Albert Shervinsky does not exist.

When we combine this with the obvious scientific errors made throughout this "chaos cloud" story (as shown on this thread) we can safely state that this entire story is a work of total fiction.

[edit on 23/9/05 by Jeremiah25]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by jrod
I have no idea if this is real, I do wish I had the tools to make the observations myself because I do find this story to be fascinating.

Dont worry, it's nonsense:



There is no such thing as a "chaos cloud", black holes don't emit enough radiation to be dangerous (if Hawking was even right at all about this topic), and certainly the black hole in the center of our Galaxy (which the article implies is the source of the cloud) won't be a big producer of this radiation: the bigger the hole, the less radiation it emits. The black hole in the center of the Milky Way is a monster. If it emits Hawking radiation, it would be incredibly difficult to detect.

And another thing: the article says Chandra detected the cloud, but in reality Chandra would be rather blind to the type of radiation emitted as electrons and positrons collide. They emit gamma rays, the kind of energy seen by satellites like INTEGRAL. Chandra detects X-rays, which are lower energy, and are not produced by the collision of electrons and positrons.

www.badastronomy.com...

It doesn't even matter who this Shervinsky really is, the satellite he mentioned can't detect such radiation, PERIOD.


Hawking radiation only escapes from the center of the black hole, like so:


So that radiation can never hit our planet, since the stream of particles moves away from the disc, not into it.


This is an artist's conception of an intermediate-sized black hole, which exist in the heart of spiral galaxies throughout the Universe. Black holes emit no light. What is visible from Earth is the accretion disk (matter swirling into the black hole, often glowing in X-ray energy) and jets (beams of charge particles moving away from the black hole).
Source: NASA Goddard



[edit on 9-23-2005 by Zion Mainframe]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Jeremiah25

Given the fact that Dr Shervinsky is absent from the listings of the most logical places for him to be stationed at, combined with the fact that a Google search turns up no information on him beyond his referral in this story, we must conclude that Albert Shervinsky does not exist.


Good work, Jeremiah25...I was googling and dogpiling to beat the band as well and came up with the same results

bupkiss

You'd get a WATS for your quick study if I had one left.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by masqua
You'd get a WATS for your quick study if I had one left.



Thanks, mate. It's the thought that counts, after all.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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After looking at a few stories and looking through the english version of the site, I can only be amazed at the inacuracies and blatant crap that they publish.

A very staight forward story about the JetBlue incident that occured over Los Angels recently will prove my point.
english.pravda.ru...


The plane departed from the city of Burbank bound to New York. When taking off the wheels of the plane's front gear twisted and it became impossible to retract them. The pilots were well aware of the fact that it would be very hard to land the aircraft with such a serious breakage. When the plane was approaching the Kennedy airport, the pilots reported an emergency. Specialists of the airport's ground services concluded that they would not be able to accept the jetliner for landing: the runway was too short for such a complicated landing, they said. The pilots were told to fly across the USA to California and try to land at the airport of Los Angeles, which has the USA's longest runway.


The plane never approached Kennedy.
They were never told to fly across the USA.
Los Angeles does not have the longest runway in the USA.

If they can't get the facts right on something that was well covered by all the worlds media, I just don't know........


After at least two hours of making wide circles over the Pacific Ocean, where it dumped fuel intended for its five-hour flight to avoid a possible blaze on touchdown, the aircraft's pilot decided to land. Scores of emergency services and fire engines raced alongside the stricken plane.


The Airbus in question has no ability to dump fuel, they have to burn it off.
I watched the landing live on CNN, and I didn't see any fire engines race alongside the stricken plane.


I read through several stories and came to one conclusion, Pravda is just crap and should be avoided as a news source.

For a good laugh or some Enquirer type stories the main english site for Pravda is: english.pravda.ru...



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 04:50 PM
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[b/] So what if they didn't know everything about the USA, the story was basically right about Burbank incident. That means THEIR astrophysicist is automatically wrong? I don't think so!



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Jeremiah25

[quote/] "Therefore, I think we can safely say that there is no astrophysicist named Dr Albert Shervinsky at MIT.

Given the fact that Dr Shervinsky is absent from the listings of the most logical places for him to be stationed at, combined with the fact that a Google search turns up no information on him beyond his referral in this story, we must conclude that Albert Shervinsky does not exist."


[b/] Your debunking relies on the deliberately erroneous info of Weekly World News info. Pravda NEVER said he's from MIT. He's a Russian! I noticed KEY info on a variety of topics has been vanishing from Google. I'm not on Google except for posts either, yet I exist.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Jeremiah25
[quote/] "Here is the thread, again, in which the cloud is debunked on its scientific merits, not on the source that brought us the story."


What exactly the cloud emission is comprized of is speculation, as to percentages of elements. Someone disagreeing with what would happen doesn't debunk the existence of the cloud. I believe what the Bible says about the fate of earth.




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