Originally posted by Dutch_Rick
They do have that obligation if we are just a simple experiment of theirs.
Well if WE are an experiment, then the nature of the experiment can make all the difference. What if the experiment is "how long will it take them to
destroy themselves?" Or "can we create false religions and other realities for billions of intelligent beings and maintain them in this illusion
If we do experiments on mice or other animals, and they develop into beings that can cause trouble for us humans, maybe they carry a dangerous virus
that can be picked up by humans, maybe they become intelligent and act in a way they can harm humans..what do we humans do then? we destroy them.. its
our obligation to other humans..
It's not our "Obligation" though, it's just something we do. Some people destroy other humans, some nations make it their obligation to destroy
other nations. Anything can become an obligation! So you cannot really assume that those who experiment on us are in any way benevolent, and in fact,
the very fact that they'd be violating our free will to do some experiments suggests that their nature is self-serving, which means, anything goes!
We have animal rights groups, human rights groups, etc. But that was not always the case!
So...if we are an experiment, we became intelligent and we can form a danger to them who created us, why wouldnt they destroy us?
Well that's a tough question. If we are an experiment, it means our free will is being violated, we're not in control of our existance. And only
self-serving beings violate free will of others - because this implies putting your needs and wants over others. And if those beings are self serving,
that means when their life becomes threatened, and they have to make a choice between killing us to preserve themselves or allowing us to kill them,
the choice would logically be - kill us, save themselves. So it makes sense that they would destroy us IF we presented any sort of danger to them.
However, the only danger animals present to humans at this point is a possibility of some transmittable disease. We're not afraid of being eaten by a
bunch of pissed off lions (well on rare occasions individual people are unfortunate enough to.. be eaten. I mean we as a human race). And perhaps
similarly, no matter how intelligent we become, we may possibly still pose no threat to our "creators" or "experimenters", simply because THEIR
form of existance may be so much above ours that our technology, that is based on our limited perspective of reality, is in no way a threat. Consider
that those beings may be hyperdimentional, exist without time and space, and other similar possibilities. We can't even get out of our solar system,
we're like rats in a bucket at this point!
But I agree, IF we ever become a threat to any self-serving race of beings (like ourselves), they'll always choose to preserve their existance over
ours, simply due to their natures.
We place weapons in space, we can blow up our planet with nukes and that will affect at least our milky way and maybe even further into the universe
they would suffer effects of it...
Then they MUST destroy us, it is their obligation to their people to keep them safe and take action if the experiment goes wrong and gets outta
Well maybe, or maybe not! Consider that many people on earth feel absolutely NO obligation towards their own people, very often this includes
governments as well. They certainly ACT all nice and friendly but won't hesitate to kill and step over corpses to get to the top - sacrifice their
fellow humans for their own greedy and selfish purposes. So keeping people "safe" is something governments give lots of lip service to, but
historically, didn't mind slaughtering people left and right when they had the urge.
and right now, it is really getting out of hand, i dont know if we are an experiment, but what i do know is that we impose danger to other planets and
thats prolly why they come to Earth.
Well if they have the technology to come to earth, I think it is improbable that we pose a danger to them no matter what we do. But also, consider
possibility of other realities, other universes, dimentions, etc. We're still just babies, very foolish, mechanical, ignorant, materialistic,
presumptuous, arrogant... babies.
But the question is then that if we are an experiment, and we evolved into creatures with intelligence and feelings etc etc, would their government or
whatever leads them, give them permission to destroy the experiment or would they try to help us live in peace and stop being a threat to others?
We don't need help living in peace though! We just aren't interested! Actually, the majority of people are interested, but they are so easily
manipulated by their governments, their religious leaders, corporate interests, etc.. that they end up thinking they have no choice but to go kill a
bunch of other people, that it's somehow necessary. I think that help is nice, but in the end, all it takes is to STOP being gullible, naive, easily
manipulated, egocentric, arrogant, materialistic, etc. In other words, self-serving - though service to self takes different "flavors" if you will.
Some become conscious manipulating masters, governments, tyrants, etc. Others become gullible slaves who simply take the "easy way out" and just
believe their leaders hoping they won't be lied to or lead into wars for greedy interests of the rich and powerful. That wishful thinking is also a
self-serving feature of the "common folk" that gets them into crap, always has throughout history.
Also note the UFO activity raised through the roof since we invented Nuke's
What if we're a cosmic reality show? Nukes must've increased our ratings, which in turn increased the funds given to the show, which increased the
complexity of the set, the number of camera crews, etc! Ah it all makes sense now!
[edit on 6-3-2006 by lilblam]