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White "seed"-looking object parked together with two jets

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posted on Sep, 22 2005 @ 05:04 AM
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Probably nothing, but found this white seed-looking object parked together with two jets near Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. The reason I am asking is that I have heard of people seeing such UFO's, so I thought that perhaps it just *might* be worth looking into.





[edit on 22-9-2005 by anorwegianguy1972]

[edit on 22-9-2005 by anorwegianguy1972]




posted on Sep, 22 2005 @ 08:26 AM
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I dont know what it is, but it looks like its parked next to an old Mig and possibly an F4. If thats the case, I cant believe its anything amazing. But who knows?



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
I dont know what it is, but it looks like its parked next to an old Mig and possibly an F4. If thats the case, I cant believe its anything amazing. But who knows?


A F-4 is 58 feet (18 meters) long, so the object is about the same length. Its pretty big, and I havet seen this kind of object in other bases.

[edit on 23-9-2005 by anorwegianguy1972]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 08:36 AM
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I don't know anything about these sorts of things, but is it possible that its covered, and that is why the shape is so unusual??



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:06 AM
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something like an F-104 covered would make a shape like this, or the wings have been removed on something with longer ones.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by KKing123
something like an F-104 covered would make a shape like this, or the wings have been removed on something with longer ones.


Good call
Since we have a frame of reference on the F-4, is the tarp covered object clost to the length of a F-104?

Also, not sure if the one in the middle is a Mig or an F-106



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 02:42 PM
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There is a similar object in a Area 51 picture.



Here the same spike without the white seed like object on top of it:



Taken from this page:

www.menphis75.com...

Could it be the X-22A ?

[edit on 23-9-2005 by anorwegianguy1972]



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 05:25 PM
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Excellent picture indeed. I saw some diamond-shaped craft on the abovetopsecret aircraft page. Could this be an evolution of it? Good find anyway. Its probly nothing, but at least its interesting for now.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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Those White pylons are used to test RCS and other RADAR kinds of tests.

Shattered OUT...



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Darkpr0
Excellent picture indeed. I saw some diamond-shaped craft on the abovetopsecret aircraft page. Could this be an evolution of it? Good find anyway. Its probly nothing, but at least its interesting for now.


Have a link? TIA



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 06:29 PM
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Wow. It really looks like a sunflower seed, down to the graining lines. Maybe one of the satellite engineers was eating some sunflower seeds where he shouldn't have been, and one got stuck to the lens?


-koji K.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by anorwegianguy1972
Could it be the X-22A ?

[edit on 23-9-2005 by anorwegianguy1972]


interesting images. one thing i noticed though is if it were the same object as in the images in your post, wouldn't the shadow be different from the adjacent planes? ie, it would cast a longer shadow, because it would be so much higher?

-koji K.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by koji_K
one thing i noticed though is if it were the same object as in the images in your post, wouldn't the shadow be different from the adjacent planes? ie, it would cast a longer shadow, because it would be so much higher?
-koji K.


It is sitting on the ground in the first picture, on the second picture they are testing its radar reflecting properties.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by anorwegianguy1972

Originally posted by koji_K
one thing i noticed though is if it were the same object as in the images in your post, wouldn't the shadow be different from the adjacent planes? ie, it would cast a longer shadow, because it would be so much higher?
-koji K.


It is sitting on the ground in the first picture, on the second picture they are testing its radar reflecting properties.


Aha! Missed it in the second pic... thanks!

-koji K.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 07:44 PM
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It looks like this thing... shaped like a seed as well but I dont know where the pic came from.... diffently Photoshop or something..



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 08:14 PM
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There was a Popular Science article about an alleged secret aircraft like this quite a few years back. It was described as the "deltoid pumpkin seed." It was supposedly powered by an external-combustion ramjet, squeezed through the air like you might squeeze a pumpkin seed in your fingers, causing it to shoot forward with tremendous velocity.

It was accelerated up to supersonic speeds by conventional turbines, and once it reached a certain speed, fuel would be sprayed from injectors ringing the aft fuselage. The aircraft's fuselage was shaped so that the shockwave in the atmosphere around it would form a sort of external combustion chamber.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 09:22 PM
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The seed like object is 14.87 meters long and 7.68 meters wide at its widest point. I think this is measurement is acurrate enough that the true lengths are within 1/2 meter of these measurements definately and probably closer quite a bit closer.

middle aircraft:
length-17.80 meters
wingspan-10.61 meters

This was not done by comparison with the f-4. The software that is being used here(Google Earth) allows for distance measurement handled completely by the program.

The aircraft-like looking object to the right is really wierd. It looks like it only has one wing and has two stripes while having some white-purplish stuff coming out its back and then turning at an odd angle. It looks wierd enough that 'error' has crossed my mind once. They have some good mathamaticians and programmers at Google but this isn't the only time that a computer generated collage has created errors on seams where two images merged. In fact if you look just above those aircraft, you see a long black line where two images merged.

I took a few sample of the purple color and it turns out to have the following properties. The red/blue ratio of three samples are .90, .93, and .95. This determines what type of purple the color is. What emits that shade of purple? I have no idea.

The f-104 has a length of 16.66 meters and a width of 6.36 meters. That is long by 1.79 meters(12 percent) and short by 1.32 meters(17 percent) respectively. Basically, the seed like object is not long enough and too wide to be a f-104(it is too circular)

This airbase is Holloman Airforce Base in New Mexico as identified by Google Earth. On the Bases website, they have pictures and info. on the F-117A Nighthawk, the Tornado and the T-38 Talon. I assume these are the aircraft that they operate and maintain besides the f-4 of course.

I checked the dimensions of the T-38 Talon and it has a length of 14 meters and a wingspan of 7.6 feet. A pretty darn good match. I went back and checked my length measurement and I say it actually could easily be 14 meters exactly



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 04:42 PM
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This thread has been moved from the "Aircraft Projects" forum by my request



posted on Sep, 24 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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Wait, why has it been moved?

It doesn't belong in Aliens/UFO, it really does belong in Aircraft Projects, atleast that's if you want to get the factual input.

Shattered OUT...



posted on Sep, 25 2005 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Wait, why has it been moved?

It doesn't belong in Aliens/UFO, it really does belong in Aircraft Projects, atleast that's if you want to get the factual input.

Shattered OUT...

Indeed. If it was in the air then this is the right part of the forum, but as it's at an airbase between some aircraft it would be best suited for the Aircraft Projects part of the forum, no?



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