U.S. may have anti gravity propulsion, page 2
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reply posted on 9-9-2003 @ 11:58 AM by TheBandit795



reply posted on 9-9-2003 @ 07:03 PM by kraken
I also noticed this article on CNN today. I was interested in it since I am currently reading Nick Cook's book "The Hunt For Zero Point....." www.amazon.com...=pd_sxp_f/102-9455184-0652125?v=glance&s=books


It is a fascinating read so far, although I do not care too much for Nick's writing style. He tends to go on and on and many of his run-on sentences are over a paragraph in length. Other than that it is a good read.


reply posted on 12-9-2003 @ 01:06 AM by MKULTRA
Qlone,

That man who allegedly worked at S-4 inside Area 51 was likely named Robert "Bob" Lazar. He claimed to have earned a doctorate in physics and also claimed to have worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory. Yet, no records of his professional existence could ever be found-- only records from when he attended a university as an undergraduate (if I recall correctly, may have been the doctorate itself). My guess is that Lazar is a witting or unwitting programming subject. His stories amaze the intellectuals while also communicating with our enemies subversively.

However, I could be wrong.

In terms of the anti-gravity propulsion, I do not have a doctorate in physics However in terms of keeping secrets about the technology, I'm sure that the government has plenty of esoteric propulsion systems. Think about this.

Slightly before F-117A's were publically shown for the first time, there were floods of UFO reports of strange almost silent black triangular craft. And then you have this quite bizarre looking plane unveiled.

If the government is willing to release this plane to the attention of the WORLD, they've just compromised national security to a degree. The US has plenty of enemies who are always willing to take a free "leg up".

To prevent this, our government must keep secrets to protect our national security. I have to admit it is a logical argument, at least to me. This does not mean I am defending the cover-ups and disinformation. Instead, the cover-ups and disinformation are fodder for our skills of thought and research.

People have been seeing these new anti-gravs for quite some time. I suspect that they are housed underground in various installations around the world. And now we see a CNN news article about anti-grav being a legitimate technology (at least as defined by Boeing).

I wonder what kinds of crazy things they are REALLY keeping secret? Makes my head spin just thinking about it LOL


reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 05:43 PM by BASSPLYR
I think bob lazar was partially right.

I don't think he worked directly on the "Sport Model" which is the UFO he claimed to have helped back engineer at S-4.

I think he was an agent of partial disclosure. his ideas make a lot of sense if you subscribe to the T T Brown theories and the pantheon of electrogravetitics.

Bob makes a lot of claims that don't make sense unless you look at them from a electrogravetic perspective.

For instance. he claims that gravity is part of the microwave spectrum. Electrogravetics claims that microwaves and super high voltage effect gravity, but that gravity is still gravity and largely a mystery.

He claims that the reactor inside the "sport Model" when turned on had a repulsive effect where one could bounce golf balls off of it. he goes on to say that gravity waves are then transmitted to the outside of the craft using a wave guide. gravity won't adhere to the waveguide in real life but microwaves will. could the reactor really be a mazar like device and the wave guide a microwave guide.

He says that atoms have a gravitational field that extends beyond the electron shell in sufficiently heavy atoms. Electrogravetics says that mostly atoms have a nuetral electric charge but that some will have a nucleus that will allow a positive charged field to extend beyond the electron shell.

Bob says that the "sport Model" had three gravity amplifiers and that they were connected to three gravity lenses. Electrogravetics says that one can amplify electricity and then use that juice to power gravitator like devices that basically are like gravitiy guns in the way that they can project some kind of electrogravetic field like a laser and create localized effects away from the device. could the gravity lenses be these devices instead. and , instead of using those beams to triangulate to focus on a place in space to stretch the space to the ship, the electrogravetic guns focus on a location in space creating a gravity well in which to fall into.

Alot of what bob says makes sense from an electrogravetic perspective. he could have misunderstood how the ship worked or was misinformed and never directly worked on the ship. or he knows exactly how it works and is changing the recipe a little to not totally give away the crafts secrets but is tacitly pointing towards a electrogravetic answer.

also I doubt element 115 has anything to do with anything on the vessel since I don't believe the reactor is an antimatter reactor but some sort of maser like device. the waveguide is a dead giveaway.



reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 08:44 PM by West Coast
Originally posted by heelstone
Originally posted by TheBandit795
They should disclose and unveil the Tr-3b in order to solve NASA's
dilemma.


Heh. NASA is so very much just a cover story for what is really going on in aerospace technology. I bet everybody who "works" there hates having to put up with the facade of primitive rocketry with miniscule advancements. Whenever the guts are spilled on the TR-3B and all the other technology available, NASA will probably cease to exist and just be absorbed into whatever ultra-tech space group is really running the show.


Was it Mr. Northrop him self who said, in reference to all the sci-fi movies such as star wars, etc. "We've been there, done that." There is also Gary McKinnons Claims one should not so easily dismiss.

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reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 11:36 PM by masawa
reply to post by West Coast



Hi,

I think you are paraphrasing Ben Rich of Skunkworks.

Thanks,
M


reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 11:44 PM by masawa
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Habu,

I have always been interested in how a person gets 'selected' for a specific airframe. I can understand some of it has to do with which service you elect to enlist in but I can imagine everyone in flight school standing up and saying, I want to pilot the blackbird.

Does the pilot select or are you selected? Is there a washout program? Do you end up flying a P3 if you don't make the cut? Is nearly everything done via simulators now? Does a personality profile influence as much as or more than your technical skill?

Seeing that your bird was 'offically' decommed about 20 years ago, what do you fly next? Or is it mandatory retirement?

Thanks in advance for any insight into the process you can give.

M

OP, if you think this derails your thread please tell me so I can use u2u instead.



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