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8This is why it[a] says:
"When he ascended on high,
he led captives in his train
and gave gifts to men." 9(What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)
Originally posted by junglejake
Myself, I used to believe He did because that was all I had been told
Originally posted by Neoamadeus:
But there is an early 2nd century AD Christian idea that "Iesous" was kept busy after the crucifixion in some netherworld, and had to "descend to the lower regions (of the departed) in order to preach the gospel to those who slept" meaning the place of the souls of the dead where they had 3 whole days to hear the good news and convert and be saved from some ind of pending Judgment etc...
Originally posted by shihulud
Just out of curiousity how can Jesus have been crucified and buried on the Friday and rise on the Sunday when he was supposed to have been buried for 3 days and 3 nights???
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Originally posted by junglejake
If there's anything I can ever do for you to help you along or keep you encouraged, let me know. I would consider it an honor.
Originally posted by shihulud
Just out of curiousity how can Jesus have been crucified and buried on the Friday and rise on the Sunday when he was supposed to have been buried for 3 days and 3 nights???
G
43Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
40But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? 41We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."
42Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."
How can these two points of view be reconciled? What was the original faith of the Church? What do early Christian sources tell us about the descent into Hades? And what is the soteriological significance of the descent of Christ into Hades?
1. Eastern theological tradition
We come across references to the descent of Christ into Hades and His raising the dead in the works of Eastern Christian authors of the 2nd and 3rd centuries, such as Polycarp of Smyrna, Ignatius of Antioch, Hermas, Justin, Melito of Sardes, Hyppolitus of Rome, Irenaeus of Lyons, Clement of Alexandria and Origen. In the 4th century, the descent to hell was discussed by Athanasius, Basil the Great, Gregory Nazianzen, John Chrysostom, as well as such Syrian authors as Jacob Aphrahat and Ephrem the Syrian. Noteworthy among later authors who wrote on this theme are Cyril of Alexandria, Maximus the Confessor and John Damascene.