Iraq: Brit Soldiers Dressed As Arabs In car Packed With Explosives Captured, page 4
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reply posted on 20-9-2005 @ 05:27 AM by Syrian Sister
ryan

i'll try to find it for you.

ArchAngel

YOu hit the nail on the head. thankyou for being a sane voice in a world of madness.

Zaphod58

The riot thing was for ryan.

"I said this is the perfect situation for the militia to take advantage of"

"if you were in the militia and had something like this drop into your lap you would be stupid to not take advantage of it"

Perhaps, THAT IS , IF they had the british and american mentality, of taking advantage , making false flag operations.

But they don't think like you, and maybe they are foolish, and "stupid not to take advantage" but atleast they fight honourably.

LIke i said, and as i have always said, since i started posting on this board.

THe iraqi resistance would never hurt the very people they are fighting and dying to protect.

I know, because i know the resistance, and i know people that know the resistance.

The resistance have nothing to do with the bombing of civilians, and they have nothing to do with the mythical zarqawi.

The enemy of all of us are behind these bombings,the Traitors governments of the british and the US.


Cilandak

it makes perfect sense for them to be destabilising iraq for the following reasons.

Divide and conquer - Get iraqies to start fighting each other instead of fighting the occupation. This will creat more opportunists vying for power, to collaborate with the occupiers.

Defame the Resistance- The US learned from vietnamn that a gorrilla army can only exist with a good civilian support base. These bombings are designed to get the iraqi people to distrust and dislike the iraqi resistance, and hence that would destroy the resistance.

Create a reason to stay - The brits and the US can now claim that they need to be in iraq longer to "protect the civilian population." ironically the people who they are killing.

From the horses mouth same day this all happened.


quote: UK may increase Iraq deployment
From correspondents in London
September 19, 2005
Britain said overnight it would, if necessary, increase the number of troops in Iraq as fears that the country is sliding towards civil war increase.

www.theaustralian.news.com.au...



They are building perminant bases, they need an excuse to stay as long as they want.


reply posted on 20-9-2005 @ 05:41 AM by Souljah
Originally posted by Syrian Sister
Divide and conquer - Get iraqies to start fighting each other instead of fighting the occupation. This will creat more opportunists vying for power, to collaborate with the occupiers.

Defame the Resistance- The US learned from vietnamn that a gorrilla army can only exist with a good civilian support base. These bombings are designed to get the iraqi people to distrust and dislike the iraqi resistance, and hence that would destroy the resistance.

Create a reason to stay - The brits and the US can now claim that they need to be in iraq longer to "protect the civilian population." ironically the people who they are killing.

Yep - I guess I was Right.

They actually Were Undercover.

And their Job was to create the Situation described in these Excellent 3 Points that Syrian Sister has made.



Maybe they were the members of Special Forces?

Like SAS?

Has anyone thought of that Possibility?

They probably have Missions like that - to go "Undercover".

I was Right - the two British Solders were Commandos:


BASRA, Iraq - In a major show of force, British soldiers used tanks to break down the walls of the central jail in this southern city late Monday and freed two Britons, allegedly undercover commandos, who had been arrested on charges of shooting two Iraqi policemen.

News Yahoo

And did you know that...

About 150 Iraqi prisoners also fled as British commandos stormed inside and rescued their comrades, said Aquil Jabbar.

Jolly Good Show Lads!

[edit on 20/9/05 by Souljah]


reply posted on 20-9-2005 @ 07:39 AM by Syrian Sister
Originally posted by cargo
Syrian Sister, I would post a multitude of photos of dead Iraqi insurgents dressed in blue jeans, white Nikes, and a variety of coloured jackets (covering there ammunition pouches) .


Excuse me, but i do belive i said the MEHDI army wears the black uniform.

And it was you who claimed the mehdi army where rioting, when it was clearly iraqi civilians.

THe north resistance's have many different factions, each with their own different marking for the uniform, be it a certain face mask, or a certian clothing item.

Yes i have no doubt alot of resistance of the north (not in the mehdi army) where blue jeans, i'm sorry that they don't have one leader ship that tells them what to where, and they don't have the money to produce good looking uniforms, but they still have some indicator that they are resistance, by the way they where their head scarf and the way they carry their ammo packs. Openly. I can show you photos if you wish. But Also sometimes you shoot civilians, and call them insurgents, and thats why you have photos of dead iraqies in civilian clothes.


Zaphod58

If you are going off post, in an country where there are people that don't want you there, OF COURSE you're going to go out in civilian attire


You do realise that makes them spies under the geneva convention. Especially since they dressed up as iraqies.
But i'm glad you admit the iraqies don't want you in iraq.


[edit on 20-9-2005 by Syrian Sister]


reply posted on 20-9-2005 @ 08:06 AM by jsobecky
Also, I'm not sure where you got those pictures, or how long they'll be available.. because every news source I've seen show's these guys' faces blurred at the request of the MoD.. I copied both pictures and I'll upload them to ATS if the pics get taken down..

There's a look at the two men from a slightly different angle:
Pix
So it seems that the pictures are being shown widely.

I haven't seen any updates of the explosives reported by the Chinese link. It would seem that the anti-coalition crowd would be chomping at the bit to get pictures of those into the media, if they did exist.


reply posted on 20-9-2005 @ 08:17 AM by Syrian Sister
Zaphod58

actually it is, saying, that those vehicles where burned by followers of moqtada, is the same as saying those vehicles wher burned by the mehdi army.
because followers of moqtada = mehdi army.

Why oh why would the mehdi army throw molotov cocktails, when they have RPG's at their disposal?

Molotov cocktails is a weapon to the weaponless.

Quiet Soul

Understood my friend, as for the photo graphs, i'm quick on my heels when it comes to news on iraq. In this game, you've gotta be.

the pictures have already been leeked on the net, but most of the sources now are bluring their faces.

as you can see jsobecky had to link to al jazeera to get the images.



Valhal


There is no way to explain or excuse this.

I don't kow how Britain specifically, or any occupying force in general, can talk their way out of this, or even survive this.

This is the end.


I too still belive this, but they sure are trying hard. At first they where flustared and had no controll over the media.

Now looking at how the coverups are coming, and how the media is changing tune, the media are now hiding the fact the spies where dressed as iraqi civilians.

Even though the photos of them suggest otherwise. (growing beards to look more iraqi ect)

How far will this story change, who is to know.

But the important thing is, That you don't doubt in your mind. What has happened today. If you can do that, then it truly is the end .



WEEKS AGO FROM SOCIALIST FACTIONS OF THE IRAQI RESISTANCE


The following is a bad machine translation of a statement made by the
communist resistance of iraq, sighting that the CIA is behind attacks
against civilians.

Iraqi Communists assure that CIA is behind the indiscriminate attacks

Rebelion
The Union of the Iraqian people, organization who proclaims her opposition
to the American military occupation, has accused the Central Agency of
Intelligence (CIA) of the United States to be behind the attacks in Iraq
To thus he has affirmed today in press conference in the Spanish city of
Cordova the spokesman it of the Union of the Iraqian People.....


www.rebelion.org...

[edit on 20-9-2005 by Syrian Sister]


reply posted on 20-9-2005 @ 08:30 AM by dbates
Hold on. Before everyone mans the life-boats, let's look at the whole story. Just as the British commandos were out of uniform, has anyone considered the possibility that the police were also out of uniform? Let's examine this article from earlier this year that tells us about the level of corruption in the Basara police forces.


Source
The chief of police in Basra admitted yesterday that he had effectively lost control of three-quarters of his officers and that sectarian militias had infiltrated the force and were using their posts to assassinate opponents.
Speaking to the Guardian, General Hassan al-Sade said half of his 13,750-strong force was secretly working for political parties in Iraq's second city and that some officers were involved in ambushes.

"I trust 25% of my force, no more."


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Making a statement that you can only trust 25% of your employees says a lot. Most likely the "police" that were shot by the British commandos were either corrupt or imposters to begin with. No real loss there. This is simply a case of a special operation gone bad. Look for more police in Basara to get the axe soon until the force is made up of one that is actually loyal to the Iraqi government.
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