Brittish troops held in Iraq - Oooops!

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posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:06 AM
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2 soldiers have been arrested following an " incident " at a check point manned by iraqi security services

this link :

linK

is the only one up so far

sounds very bizarre - hope every one keeps thier heads till it is reseokved amicably

[edit on 20-9-2005 by John bull 1]




posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:37 AM
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here's another one.
news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 05:04 PM
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Heh, seems like our boys couldn't wait for the trial.

www.sky.com...



God knows who authorised them to do that.


[edit on 19-9-2005 by Ultron10]



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 05:30 PM
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Mohammed al Waili, the governor of the province, said the British raid was "barbaric, savage and irresponsible".

"A British force of more than 10 tanks backed by helicopters attacked the central jail and destroyed it," he said.

"This is an irresponsible act."

He added that the British force had spirited the prisoners away to an unknown location.


Way to build a Democracy..




posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 06:09 PM
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Another link

news.bbc.co.uk...


MoD officials insist they have been talking to the Iraqi authorities to secure the release of the men - who were reported to be working undercover.

But they do acknowledge a wall was demolished as UK forces tried to "collect" the men Iraqi police accused of firing on them.


LMAO!



Seems that some things are conflicting at the moment. Best to wait to hear the whole thing.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 06:55 PM
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Is this necessarily good news or bad?
Good in that the British soldiers were busted out, literally.
Bad that now one has to wonder at the future relations between the local British forces in and near Basra and the Iraqi local police and authorities.
Let's see: two Iraqi policemen killed, and a jail demolished to the point that 150 prisoners escaped. Btw, who is going to re-capture those 150 escaped prisoners?

Here are some protest photos taken after the shooting incident that had happened a few days back concerning the two British soldiers held. The protest photos are from today.




Source of photos





seekerof

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posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 07:36 PM
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guess the 2 guys w'r very important....knew a lot of stuff...or they would always bust out 2 guys???

Y'r Canadian friend,
Sven


2 funny about all the criminals getting out...bet they get scooped up by the local gangs etc. can't see em going anywere....so now they prob. have no choice but to join the war....or steal again just to survive.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 09:12 PM
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These two guys were probably in pretty deep, so deep that the Brits couldn't allow the chance of them being whisked away from the jail by insurgents or sympathizers within the Iraqi police force. Negotiations probably were made or attempted, but the going was too slow for comfort.

It does kind of show that the Emperor of sovereign Iraq wears no clothes, though... (no, I'm not talking about Saddam).

-koji K.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 10:52 PM
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and those like them, are behind the civilian deaths due to 'bombings" in iraq.

trying to insite civil war.

This time they are caught red handed.



BAGHDAD, Sept. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Iraqi police detained two British soldiers in civilian clothes in the southern city Basra for firing on a police station

on Monday, police said.

"Two persons wearing Arab uniforms opened fire at a police station in Basra. A police patrol followed the attackers and captured them to discover they

were two British soldiers," an Interior Ministry source told Xinhua.

The two soldiers were using a civilian car packed with explosives, the source said.


news.xinhuanet.com...




Those two men where very important and must have known alot indeed.


The game is up.



This is not the first time, www.whatreallyhappened.com...

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posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 10:56 PM
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Funny how they managed to not kill a single person when they opened fire on the market. Now either they're really bad marksmen that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, they didn't open fire, or they did and were intentionally trying not to kill anyone.

The point of trying to start a civil war would be? The Iraqi government already has said they want US troops to stay. They want to cut the numbers down, but they want them to stay for at least the next several years. So it can't be for the troops to stay. It certainly wouldn't be to settle things down so that some of the troops can come home. So what's the purpose of trying to start a civil war?



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:07 PM
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"The point of trying to start a civil war would be?"

The following are the points:

Divide and conquer - Get iraqies to start fighting each other instead of fighting the occupation. This will creat more opportunists vying for power, to collaborate with the occupiers.

Defame the Resistance- The US learned from vietnamn that a gorrilla army can only exist with a good civilian support base. These bombings are designed to get the iraqi people to distrust and dislike the iraqi resistance, and hence that would destroy the resistance.

Create a reason to stay - The brits and the US can now claim that they need to be in iraq longer to "protect the civilian population." ironically the people who they are killing.

From the horses mouth same day this all happened.



quote: UK may increase Iraq deployment
From correspondents in London
September 19, 2005
Britain said overnight it would, if necessary, increase the number of troops in Iraq as fears that the country is sliding towards civil war increase.

www.theaustralian.news.com.au...



They are building perminant bases, they need an excuse to stay as long as they want.

Are you begining to understand now?



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
Funny how they managed to not kill a single person when they opened fire on the market. Now either they're really bad marksmen that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, they didn't open fire, or they did and were intentionally trying not to kill anyone.


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breakingnews.iol.ie...

British forces in tanks and helicopters stormed an Iraqi jail tonight to rescue two service personnel who were arrested after allegedly shooting dead a local policeman and wounding another, the governor of Basra said....



The point of trying to start a civil war would be? The Iraqi government already has said they want US troops to stay. They want to cut the numbers down, but they want them to stay for at least the next several years. So it can't be for the troops to stay. It certainly wouldn't be to settle things down so that some of the troops can come home. So what's the purpose of trying to start a civil war?


The point would be to turn the Iraqi people against eachother.

Thats what false flag attacks are all about.

Look into the Lavon Affair to understand better.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:14 PM
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I'm talking about the ORIGINAL TWO that were arrested. Supposedly they drove up to a very crowded market and opened fire, and DIDN'T KILL A SINGLE PERSON.

Oh and if the British troops raided the prison in two tanks and an APC and managed to kill ONE PERSON then that also says a lot about whether they were trying to kill people or not. heh. A tank could run over large numbers of people without firing a shot, or slowing down. If they even fired their main gun near a crowd of people they could kill someone just from the blast under the right conditions.

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posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:17 PM
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Except that the current President of Iraq has ALREADY SAID that they will give the US basing rights to STAY in Iraq. He said that at a speech in the US a couple of weeks ago, or longer. I can't remember exactly when it was.

The resistance was already doing a pretty good job of giving itself a bad name. I've heard many reports of normal citizens shooting back at resistance fighters that were shooting at American troops, or stopping US convoys and warning them of mined areas, or IEDs along the road....



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
I'm talking about the ORIGINAL TWO that were arrested. Supposedly they drove up to a very crowded market and opened fire, and DIDN'T KILL A SINGLE PERSON.


This is the original two from today.

Where did you hear they did not kill anyone, or did you assume it.....



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:24 PM
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The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.
www.cnn.com

From an IRAQI official. Not one of the stories says anything about a police officer being killed by them. It says they shot at a police station, and shot two police officers, but nothing about any fatalities.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:38 PM
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From an IRAQI official. Not one of the stories says anything about a police officer being killed by them. It says they shot at a police station, and shot two police officers, but nothing about any fatalities.


Did you hear this on TV, or do you have a link to where you read it?

Who was the official?

If they did not mention a dead policeman does that make in an incontrovertable fact that you can carve in stone?



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:44 PM
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"I'm talking about the ORIGINAL TWO that were arrested. Supposedly they drove up to a very crowded market and opened fire, and DIDN'T KILL A SINGLE PERSON. "

Actually no, They didn't drive up to a crowded market and shoot at a crowd, where did you hear this? they drove up to a Police station/checkpoint. Perhaps there where civilians around it. but it was a checkpoint not a market place.


1--Helicopter hovering above the area. Security measures. Police station.

A car did not obey the "stop" order at the police checkpoint in Emin Dahili of Basra on Monday morning and responded to the police by firing. The car could only be stopped by some more police cars.

The two British soldiers were dressed like Arabs and waved a British flag from the car and asked the police not to fire.

Link


And they shot at iraqi police. "wounding several, including a traffic police officer." i guess the bullets where being aimed at the bodies.

I am sure their where civilians around because otherwise the false flag operaiton wouldn't be as effective.

LATER

There was a riot against british troops, and the british troops shot some civilian rioters. we here some reports 2 died, we hear some reports 15.



[edit on 19-9-2005 by Syrian Sister]

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[edit on 20/9/05 by JAK]



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Syrian Sister

"The point of trying to start a civil war would be?"

The following are the points:

Divide and conquer - Get iraqies to start fighting each other instead of fighting the occupation. This will creat more opportunists vying for power, to collaborate with the occupiers.


The Iraqi's were already fighting each other, Sunni against Shiite. This wasn't because of the Americans, this was because Saddam was Sunni and favoured the Sunni people over Shiites. This can be seen in the banning of certqain Shiite religious festivals etc.



Defame the Resistance- The US learned from vietnamn that a gorrilla army can only exist with a good civilian support base. These bombings are designed to get the iraqi people to distrust and dislike the iraqi resistance, and hence that would destroy the resistance.


LOL, these bombings are carried iout by sick individuals who somehow think blowing themsleves and with other people will send them to heaven.
So you're saying that all these suicide bombers who witnesses say were Iraqi aren't ? How does that work ? Are you saying Iraqi's can't recognise their own people ?


Create a reason to stay - The brits and the US can now claim that they need to be in iraq longer to "protect the civilian population." ironically the people who they are killing.


Hmm, I don't think anyone wants to stay in Iraq, lol. Once there is a stable secular governemnt they'll leave. Which I happen to totally agree with. We've seen what happnes when religious fundamentalism pervades governemnt, juts look at the Taliban in Afghanistan.



posted on Sep, 20 2005 @ 12:02 AM
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Did you guys bother to even LOOK at the cnn link I put up? To`make it easier for you, since you can't bother yourself with even basic fact checking....

www.cnn.com...

According to an Iraqi official they drove up to a crowded market, opened fire, wounding several people then fired at a police station, hitting one or two police officers.





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