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What about the militaries internet?

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posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 10:13 PM
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i was just sitting around thinking about this and was planning on asking plenty of questions for those of you who might know
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What type of "secret internet" does the military has?

Is there anyway for a civilian to get into ("hack") into it?

What goes on in the Secret INternet?

What exactly is it called?

Do they use URL's or some sort of method to log-in to these websites?

I guess you could say its kind of like the "Area 51 of the Internet" Guess ill call it the Conspirinet. Any ideas?



BDL

posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 05:04 AM
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I'm in the British military, and I've never heard of a 'secret internet'. The British forces have their own networks, like a lot of big companies do, which are used for passing data etc, but they're not a secret internet.

I'm not going to go into the security used on it, for obvious reasons.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 05:13 AM
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You do realize of course that this IS the military internet right? The internet was originally developed to allow the USAF to keep control if its nuclear forces after a nuclear attack, and it just expanded after that.

www.davesite.com...

[edit on 19-9-2005 by Zaphod58]



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
You do realize of course that this IS the military internet right? The internet was originally developed to allow the USAF to keep control if its nuclear forces after a nuclear attack, and it just expanded after that.


I thought that DARPA started the internet as a way to allow the schools conducting research for them to exchange information. Are you thinking of AUTOVON?



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 10:29 AM
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DARPA was involved in the creation, but if you read the page I linked, you will see this:

RAND Paul Baran, of the RAND Corporation (a government agency), was commissioned by the U.S. Air Force to do a study on how it could maintain its command and control over its missiles and bombers, after a nuclear attack. This was to be a military research network that could survive a nuclear strike, decentralized so that if any locations (cities) in the U.S. were attacked, the military could still have control of nuclear arms for a counter-attack.

Baran's finished document described several ways to accomplish this. His final proposal was a packet switched network.

"Packet switching is the breaking down of data into datagrams or packets that are labeled to indicate the origin and the destination of the information and the forwarding of these packets from one computer to another computer until the information arrives at its final destination computer. This was crucial to the realization of a computer network. If packets are lost at any given point, the message can be resent by the originator."

That was in 1962, DARPA got involved in 1968 as ARPA, and in 1972 was renamed DARPA. In 1973 TCP/IP was first developed, and the term "Internet" was used for the first time in 1974.

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posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 08:27 PM
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The military does has its own secret intranet, called, the SIPRNET. It is a totally self enclosed system capable of handling up to and including secret info and NNPI. So, when you hear of people saying that they have hacked into the US militaries internet, they are BS'ing you. Sorry.

I enjoy surfing it everyday, learning the news before you do.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Brende
The military does has its own secret intranet, called, the SIPRNET. It is a totally self enclosed system capable of handling up to and including secret info and NNPI. So, when you hear of people saying that they have hacked into the US militaries internet, they are BS'ing you. Sorry.

I enjoy surfing it everyday, learning the news before you do.


lol, I like how you ended that "I enjoy surfing it everyday, learning the news before you do". I am guessing that you are in the military and have access to this intranet? I appreciate you telling me at least the name of it and not saying something like,,,its classified. Ohh, what does SIPRNET stand for?



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by brodband
Ohh, what does SIPRNET stand for?


Its pretty easy

S-Secret
I-Internet
PR-Protocal
NET-Network

It has lots of good stuff on it, and yes, I am in the military, the Navy as a matter of fact.

[edit on 9/19/2005 by Brende]



posted on Sep, 20 2005 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by brodband
i was just sitting around thinking about this and was planning on asking plenty of questions for those of you who might know
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What type of "secret internet" does the military has?

Well, there's the "Secret IP Router Network" (SIPRNet) which is isolated both physically and electronically from any other computars. Then there's the other one "Non-secure Internet Protocol Router Network" (NIPRNet) a kind of monitored proxy to the regular intarweb, games, porn, music download, etc... Any software installed on these boxes must get approved. Probably plenty of other unrestricted networks floating around such as "Defense Research and Engineering Network" (DREN) where they are free to install any software.


Is there anyway for a civilian to get into ("hack") into it?

Not likely. There's some crypto stuff involved, KG-194, KIV-7, STU-III, and what not.


What goes on in the Secret INternet?

What goes on in the secret intarweb, stays in the secret intarweb. LOL!!11one1!



What exactly is it called?

SIPRNet


Do they use URL's or some sort of method to log-in to these websites?

They use secure peecees.

Here's some interesting pics, one monitor has a red sticker and the next one has a green sticker on it. In the second pic you see a close up on a secret computar.

www.arcent.army.mil...
www.arcent.army.mil... G%20Scott%20Capece.jpg

"Hey kid, step away from the secret keyboard! Go chat on the public intarweb!"



posted on Sep, 20 2005 @ 04:52 PM
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yes, I am in the military, the Navy as a matter of fact.

[edit on 9/19/2005 by Brende]

My dad was a sonar technician on the USS Toledo SSN 769.He said that they went in to Russian Waters to "take a look"



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