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Dept. of Veterans Affairs Employees Targetted Unfairly?

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posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 03:49 PM
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I read this story this morning, and I immediately thought of Gulf War Syndrome. The story tells of how some employees of the DVA had their computers confiscated to be searched for innapropriate material.

www.nbc30.com...

I get the feeling it's porn, but what if it's something more? I know a lot of guys in the DVA are actively pursuing leads regarding GWS, and some are even claiming the Govt. knowingly exposed soldiers to harmful substances to retrieve test data.

What if these employees were working on this, like others have been, and got targetted because of it? Certainly the Govt. is unfriendly to whistleblowers moreso than ever, and this could be yet another affront to the truth.

We may never know, because these stories tend to disappear as quickly as they appear.

Any opinions?




posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 04:21 PM
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Hmmm this is an interesting post.


You have voted WyrdeOne for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.


I have just recently, finally, after almost 5 yrs got the VA to admit I have Gulf War Illness (syndrome).

Something is causing VA staff to avoid getting involved in Gulf War Illness.
It's hard to get anyone to talk about it and take it seriously. What they do know is very limited, and talked about with lowered voices.

And then there's the Gulf War Health Study, 2 days of MRI's, physicals and cognitive testing. BUT the findings can not be used for diagnoses of GWI because it is classed as research.

Since getting sick the VA has tried to diagnose me with anything they could make fit my symptoms.

My latest symptom is osteoporosis (i'm 41). My blood tests show my calcium and vit D levels are normal. In other words they can find no reason for me to have osteo.

See my thread here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

But it's not surprising really; the Gov could end up paying out a lot of cash for service connected disability. Let alone having to admit they caused it. It is in their interest to scare people out of diagnosing vets with GWI. My application has been submitted.

[edit on 18/9/2005 by ANOK]



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 04:46 PM
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Hmmm this is an interesting post.


It just got me thinking, because I've been interested in the phenomenon of GWS since the first reports started popping up. I've had some discussions with sufferers, two separate individuals, who both have the same tale to tell.

Basically shut up or prepare for to have your character assassinated. When I saw this news report, I first thought it was yet another government porn bust on employees misusing their computers.

But given the department, and the number of individuals involved, I thought it entirely possible that they were researching, or communicating with others, regarding GWS. It's one of the biggest issues facing the vets and their representatives, and I know the question is on a lot of lips, albeit quietly.



I have just recently, finally, after almost 5 yrs got the VA to admit I have Gulf War Illness (syndrome).


Persistence pays off. See that you survive long enough to collect compensation.




Something is causing VA staff to avoid getting involved in Gulf War Illness.
It's hard to get anyone to talk about it and take it seriously. What they do know is very limited, and talked about with lowered voices.


Yeah, it's almost spooky, the aptmosphere surrounding the problem. I think because Big Pharma is involved, the Govt. won't step on any toes. Honestly I don't expect the problem will ever really be confronted officially.

I do, however, fully expect the ranks of the enlisted to shrink into non-existence, out of loathing and distrust. There will always be some hardcore patriots, eager to shed blood for whatever cause will sanction their mania, but those people are in the extreme minority. The vast majority of enlisted soldiers are just that, soldiers by trade. If they could make decent money fishing, many would choose that path instead.

The problem with a volunteer army is that people have to volunteer for it. Word has gotten out that the Govt. doesn't give a damn about its people, or even its soldiers. This is having a huge impact on the recruiters.

Even that position has been privatized to benefit from modern marketting (brainwashing) techniques. It's a sad state of affairs, but I'd like to be practical for a moment.

If the situation is as transparent to most as it appears to me, then there really is no problem. After a while, only the insane will join the services, and if they die due to government negligence, then it will have no measurable effect on the evolution of our species, except perhaps a positive impact, maybe. What infuriates me now is that well-intentioned people who think they are serving their country are being so mistreated and abused by those who have stolen the reins.

The country is wasting its best resource, people, by allowing a corrupt and careless government to play numbers with the lives of individuals who otherwise might contribute meaningfully to the evolution of our nation and our species. Every life lost is a huge blow to the future. Adding insult to injury is the fact that this is 'friendly fire', whatever that means.



Since getting sick the VA has tried to diagnose me with anything they could make fit my symptoms.


Right, pick a condition. It's the same in the medical community, for other 'secret' disorders. They'll blame the constellations before they admit to the fact that most disorders are caused by dehydration, improper breathing, and improper diet, oh yeah, and the bevvy of colorful chemicals insinuated into every corner of our waking life.



See my thread here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I did read your thread a while ago, and I enjoyed it very much. Keep fighting the good fight, and never let the bastards get you down.




But it's not surprising really; the Gov could end up paying out a lot of cash for service connected disability. Let alone having to admit they caused it. It is in their interest to scare people out of diagnosing vets with GWI. My application has been submitted.


Not just the government, but their corporate backers. It's a simple game, the politicians are running interception for Pharma, Chemical, and Energy cartels.

The only way to defeat the monster is to stop buying its crap. Simple, and oh so difficult.

If soldiers stopped enlisting, taxpayers stopped funding the madness, and employees of this beast all tugged simultaneously on its short and curlies, there would be sudden, violent change to be enjoyed by all.

But that probably won't happen, because most people are too detached from reality to have any hope of changing it. The best one can ever hope for is control over their own decisions, and survival of course.

You, however, seem to be handling your situation well, and getting results. More power to you. Thanks very much for adding to the discussion.



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 05:02 PM
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They do the same with the agent orange victims, they wont acknowledge that agent orange has terrible effects.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by WyrdeOne
You, however, seem to be handling your situation well, and getting results. More power to you. Thanks very much for adding to the discussion.


Thanx man, and thankyou for your interest in this.

Most people seem to ignore this issue, maybe because it would force them to question their governments motives?

The government needs to be exposed as the scum they are.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 05:21 PM
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I am a current member of the D.A.V #713 in Salem va. and there has been talk of this happening on several occasions. Now just what they are looking for is anyones guess, but the prevailing attitude is stated in WyrdeOnes post. I think the porn is just an excuse to gain entrance and to actually root out those who are trying to compile evidence on effects of D/U on current vets. over in the Sand-pit and also from Sand-pit I. Now I have had several other Officers say the porn excuse is just that. The V.A. stands to shell out some major bucks in the near future for D/U claims. Just thaought you'd like to know from this region.


[edit on 19-9-2005 by FLYIN HIGH]



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