Pornography and internet file sharing

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posted on Sep, 8 2003 @ 12:39 AM
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Aiming at Pornography to Hit Music Piracy
By SAUL HANSELL


he recording industry, struggling to curb music piracy, is shining the spotlight on another demon lurking on the Internet: pornography.

The industry is trying to enlist broader public support with a campaign intended to show that its nemesis the peer-to-peer networks for swapping files like KaZaA and Morpheus are used not only to trade songs but also pornographic images, including child pornography.

www.nytimes.com...

My opinion? This is another BS tactic to get public support to shut down internet file swapping. While I'm cerainly against child porn, the real target here is music.




posted on Sep, 8 2003 @ 02:57 PM
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that's such a crock. the RIAA is grasping at straws. I like how for one of these articles they did a search for 'britney spears' and got titles that implied sex with britney spears or underage sex. but, they didn't actually download the files. everyone that's ever been on a file sharing service knows that mislabeled files are endemic.



posted on Sep, 8 2003 @ 06:37 PM
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The reason why Britney Spears searches come up with pictures of her scantily clad is because such is the image she wishes to be associated with.

All new versions of file sharing software allow you to search only for Audio files if you'd like, and then no pictures come up anyway.

I guess the RIAA doesn't read directions very well.


Incidentally Ms. Spears is what... 20? How would her name bring up child porn?

The RIAA is a dinosaur that doesn't want to admit that it's antiquated practices of charging $18.99 for a 45 minute disc of half crap can no longer compare to me being able to make my own CD of 70 minutes of music I enjoy, for a Nickel.

Desperation causes strange things to happen.



posted on Sep, 8 2003 @ 09:24 PM
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I use Kazaa. No problem. I put in a name of a song and just want song stuff, so use the what type of files thingamajig and choose audio only. Not that hard.

Anyways, child porn is not the problem, perves who make it are. Like reality tv shows are not the problem, the people who make them are.



posted on Sep, 8 2003 @ 09:35 PM
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These things always come down to money in the end, not the greater good.

It is always in the best interest of music artists for everyone to hear their music, and most artists I've heard (obviously there are those who are against it) who have spoken out about P2P actually see it as a good thing for music.

When you consider most artists make $1.50 for each album they sell, it is the record label who happily look forward to the biggest chunk, so it is no surprise it is them who are attacking...



posted on Sep, 9 2003 @ 01:50 AM
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Yeah, like Simon stated, the artists are not the ones making the most money on album sales. The artists do better on tours than records. A tour can't be replaced by an mp3 so many artist don't care at all if people download their stuff, because if they like it, they'll come to concerts. Maybe buy a t shirt or a hat etc etc.

Record companies rape artists. It has always been this way. You become their property and they bleed you for all they can until you become yesterday's news. When that happens they cast you aside and forget you ever existed until a "Sounds of the 00's" Time Life composition CD comes out. An artist owns nothing. He can't even perform his own song at his buddy's birthday party if it's in a public place. The RIAA spins this P2P stuff as being the downloaders ripping off the poor hard working bands. This is simply not the case.
The average bands are living out of a tour bus, touring 300 days a year to make their money. Yes, bands like Metallica, U2, Pink Floyd etc make mega bucks, but how many make it to that point?

The fat cats are whining because P2P is making them less fat. Long live the technology that will eliminate corporate parasites from the precious world of music forever.



posted on Sep, 9 2003 @ 01:55 AM
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Good points Djarums. Now that Universal has lowered prices of cds, will there be an increased sales effect?



posted on Sep, 9 2003 @ 01:57 AM
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there is not that much porn on kazaa or other p2p programs. There may be a lot of pictures but that is about it.



posted on Sep, 9 2003 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by ilovepizza
there is not that much porn on kazaa or other p2p programs. There may be a lot of pictures but that is about it.


......what?
I live with 2 boys who...erm...collect adult images and videos. They get all their collectibles from Kazaa and/or iMesh.
Last time I checked, they've got a 120GB machine networked to share their respective collections, plus each has his own 60GB machine with more on it.

p2p without adult content is like .... like a hairless cat. It just ain't the same!

-B.



posted on Sep, 9 2003 @ 01:50 PM
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Banshee, that is so true. I'm not even going to go into how much porn is on my machine. I'm just laughing at your analogy. It's quite true, though.



posted on Sep, 9 2003 @ 02:04 PM
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Hey, pornography is alright, as long as it is legal pornography. While studying this subject and spending much time and energy on this long and hard subject, pornography is not the problem. Yes, child and animal and crazy disgusting stuff like that is wrong, but porn itself isn't.

My favorite one is the "It exploits women" arguement. Hello, there are guys porn to. So that arguement is useless. Besides, do you knwo how much some of these women make? MILLIONS! And they achieved the dream lots of people want, fame! Sure, kinda like how Hitler is famous, or Ted Bundy is famous, but still, they rich and famous! Not to exploited looking at it with facts. And when were these so called victims forced? No one put a gun to Jenna Jamensons head did they? Or Anna Nicole Smith, or Chyna, or Pamela, none of these women were blackmailed or intimidated into doing this.

My favorite though? Ron Jeremy!



posted on Sep, 12 2003 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by SimonGray
It is always in the best interest of music artists for everyone to hear their music, and most artists I've heard (obviously there are those who are against it) who have spoken out about P2P actually see it as a good thing for music.


And in all honesty, the music has been available for free since the invention of the cassette recorder. People would record the songs they liked off the radio.

And that sold albums and concert tickets. Giving a produst away for free is great advertising. If people like the music, they still spend the money on the CDs, concert tickets and other crap.



posted on Sep, 12 2003 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
I use Kazaa. No problem. I put in a name of a song and just want song stuff, so use the what type of files thingamajig and choose audio only. Not that hard.

Anyways, child porn is not the problem, perves who make it are. Like reality tv shows are not the problem, the people who make them are.


Why use Kazaa? Did you ever noticed getting spammed with pop-up commercials???? That is something that is built in with Kazaa and many other P2Ps.

Try Direct Connect instead. A whole lot better. You will use groups that individuals set up. The more you have to share the better groups you are allowed in.

Someone mentioned about "legal porn".
When I was a kiddo (14) I was stay the summer with a cousin in MI, USA.
One day her son and I went to a store and I started looking at magazines. I found this playboy or hustler or whatever and looked in it considering to buy it. All of a sudden the owner grabs me by the arm and throws me out of the store?????????
Say, do you have some kind of age limit on buying playboy? If you do, is not that against some major law about freedom of speech and freedom to write and publish?????
At least that would be here in Sweden. Just a sidequestion.

TY



posted on Sep, 12 2003 @ 09:17 AM
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LOL Magnus!! Sounds like a typical story any kid in the USA could tell at some point in his teen years. Yes there is a law here dictating the age that you can purchase what the government has branded "indecent" and that age is 18.

Of course the Internet has turned that law into the laughing stock of society anyways. Porn sites put up statements to the effect of "Click Here to Enter our Site. By Clicking Enter You verify that you are 18 or older". There is no age anymore, it's such a joke. Then you have brainier sites who ask for a credit card as a proof of age. That doesn't cause most kids problems either as most of them have free reign over cards on their parents accounts anyways. File sharing should not be treated as something new. Long before Napster came out files were being traded and shared on F-serves on IRC.






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