Cuba Far More Prepared for Hurricanes than USA. Shame., page 1

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Topic started on 17-9-2005 @ 10:51 AM by opensecret1150

less than 2 months ago, cuba was able to move 1.7 million people on short notice.

the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with. people know ahead of time where they are to go.

they come to your door and knock, and tell you, evacuation is coming, then they come and tell you, now.

if no electricity, they have runners who communicate from a headquarters to central locations what is to be done.

the country's leaders go on TV and take charge. but not only the leaders are speaking. the TV weatherpeople are knowledgeable. and the population is well educated about hurricanes.

they not only evacuate. it's arranged beforehand where they will go, who has family where. not only pickup is organized, delivery of people is organized.

merely sticking them in a stadium is unthinkable. shelters all have medical personnel, from the neighborhood. they have family doctors in cuba (!), who evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know who, for example, needs insulin.

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Be sure to follow the link to the BBC backing this up. I heard this on NPR as well.

Pathetic. I guess communism has it's advantages.

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reply posted on 17-9-2005 @ 08:58 PM by cjf

If you consider the failed pathetic government of the state of Louisiana as a representation of the entire historical United States, such a leap is easy. (especially given the ability to speak retroactively)

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reply posted on 17-9-2005 @ 09:14 PM by marg6043

Islands in the Caribbean are more susceptible to the weather that is reason enough to be prepared for the hurricanes.

I am from PR and we do not build the same way we built in the US houses are made of cement blocks with flat roofs also cement.

Is a big differences on construction.

reply posted on 17-9-2005 @ 09:47 PM by Mirlin11

You have a good point, but you know that certain detractors will respond to this thread with the usual rhetoric, trying to discredit it. Everything from it was the victims fault for not getting out of NO to finger pointing at the mayor and the governor is likely to be heard. We know better, but you know some folks don't ask questions, don't want answers, and just want to bury the truth.

reply posted on 17-9-2005 @ 09:54 PM by jrod

Cuba has hit by a super strong hurricane Dennis this year, it was a little stronger than Katrina when it made landfall. From the reports I saw they did very well, with a very minimal loss of life. I suppose this proves their hurricane plan is a good one.

reply posted on 17-9-2005 @ 10:00 PM by Dallas

Respectfully -- nonsense. Cuba would be a slaughtered Cuban Cow. Of all places heavely populated Cuba would be the worst and most trajic of most any Country under a full-breeze Hurricane (level 4-5)I feel..

Dallas

reply posted on 17-9-2005 @ 11:30 PM by opensecret1150

Originally posted by Dallas

Respectfully -- nonsense. Cuba would be a slaughtered Cuban Cow. Of all places heavely populated Cuba would be the worst and most trajic of most any Country under a full-breeze Hurricane (level 4-5)I feel..

Dallas

I am sorry, but you are 100% wrong. Your statement seems to be based on wishful thinking: namely that a third-world country like Cuba could not be better prepared than than the mighty USA. In fact Hurricane Dennis was a category 4. Only 16 deaths. Do the math. The truth hurts. The USA is run by people who are corrupt or incompetent, or both, or worse.

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 05:03 AM by jsobecky

Originally posted by marg6043
Islands in the Caribbean are more susceptible to the weather that is reason enough to be prepared for the hurricanes.

I am from PR and we do not build the same way we built in the US houses are made of cement blocks with flat roofs also cement.

Is a big differences on construction.

Granted, the construction has much to do with less damage.

When I look at a map of the area that hurricanes pass over on their way to the US, some of those islands look so tiny that it seems they could be totally flooded by a decent size wave. It's amazing that anyone survives at all.

they come to your door and knock, and tell you, evacuation is coming, then they come and tell you, now.

Of course, in Cuba, people have a tendency to obey an edict from the authorities, without question. Not so here in the US, as we saw in NOLA.

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 05:33 AM by jrod

Originally posted by Dallas

Respectfully -- nonsense. Cuba would be a slaughtered Cuban Cow. Of all places heavely populated Cuba would be the worst and most trajic of most any Country under a full-breeze Hurricane (level 4-5)I feel..

Dallas

Like I said, Dennis was stonger than Katrina was at landfall and Cuba faired quite well. Most Carribean Islands are much more prepared and know what to do when a major hurricane threatens. And they build their houses to withstand the winds.

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 08:38 AM by dgtempe

Fidel Castro is using an unused underground system that was built during the Cuban missile crisis. Its a tunnel system.
I am surprised myself that he lets everyone use it.

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 01:10 PM by opensecret1150

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reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 01:33 PM by marg6043

Actually one of the reasons that we don't get waves that can swallow the islands is due to the fact that the Caribbean is a chain of underground mountains, the Islands are the tips, so flooding is usually fast and over after the hurricanes.

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 01:37 PM by opensecret1150

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reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 01:37 PM by Regenmacher

Well that stands to reason, Cuba has had at least 10 times the practice!

I would think all Caribbean Islands have a better knowledge on how to prepare for tropical stomes, especially the Leewards.

So tell me something useful, is Cuban cane organic or how about the cigars?

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 02:08 PM by dgtempe

thanks to the organs for giving us organs.

I think these crops are organic- when does organic stop being organic

reply posted on 18-9-2005 @ 09:19 PM by cargo

Originally posted by jsobecky
Of course, in Cuba, people have a tendency to obey an edict from the authorities, without question. Not so here in the US, as we saw in NOLA.

You mean those who handed over their guns to armed soldiers?

reply posted on 22-9-2005 @ 01:13 PM by dgtempe

Let me tell you that when a hurricane destroys property in Cuba NOW, there is NO insurance company going to assess the damage, and help you rebuild.
Your one and only option is to try to find old lumber and go to the nearest banana tree for leaves and git to work.

Those people have it real rough down there. I know.

So if you think you have it rough here,

think again!

Cubans arent "obedient" they just want to save their bacon, you know?

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reply posted on 22-9-2005 @ 04:14 PM by opensecret1150

Originally posted by dgtempe
Let me tell you that when a hurricane destroys property in Cuba NOW, there is NO insurance company going to assess the damage, and help you rebuild.
Your one and only option is to try to find old lumber and go to the nearest banana tree for leaves and git to work.

Those people have it real rough down there. I know. So if you think you have it rough here, think again!

Cubans arent "obedient" they just want to save their bacon, you know?

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