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Life and consciousness


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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:06 AM by spellbound


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Yes.

There has to be a creator.

Full stop.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:06 AM by Conclusion


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Kind of like Yen/Yang. The question and answer are seeking each other for balance. Without balance you fall.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:09 AM by 13579


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you see let me show you.

You ask here a question!!! why am i here!! were did it all come from!!! and for what reason!!!

look at wat i say? can you not see the very answer? in your own words?

you are AKSING why

This IS the answer to the riddle

the very nature of life was not ABOUT YOU.. do the cells in your body ask why they are cells?

on scale they are pretty BIG compared to YOU vs the universe

u work it out..



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:10 AM by Agree2Disagree


Let me ask you this -

Did anything exist prior to perception?



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:12 AM by Conclusion


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I believe there to be. How one finds him is different for the ones that do.

How the rest fail to find him is the same for all of them.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:13 AM by 13579


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very true my friend.. we as life have a gift to seek, and to grow.. not for the sake of ones own being but for the whole.

To be one with your self is to admit I DO NOT CARE WHY I AM HERE, but to understand the question that brought you into being.

LIFE was the answer.. and self replication of it is our only choice

as a woman gives birth so shall the universe. and life is its child



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:14 AM by Conclusion


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In order for anything to exist it has to be aware, or something has to be aware of it.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:16 AM by 13579


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you asked so the for the statement is self explanatory

in order to ask as i pointed out one would need a question to create the paramaters for the answer

you know ever answer to every question you ask, but fail to understand the question will result in the wrong answer

correct?



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:17 AM by Conclusion


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Life was the answer that ones search for granted as the answer. From here where do we go?



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:19 AM by Agree2Disagree


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My point being - a tree is living, but not perceiving, it has a PERCEIVER.

We were once not perceiving and thus needed a perceiver to exist.

Without first existing, we couldn't be given anything ie perception and/or what we call "life".



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:22 AM by 13579


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we have a choice.. ignore our gift, or face what we all know is coming

you can not hide the turth that is inside.. do you think humanity can?

im sorry but it does not work that way



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:25 AM by Conclusion


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Right. See to exist in this place we have life. To exist after life, we have death. Life is the inhale, death is the exhale. As to what God is, I was say he is like the singularity in a black hole. Forever.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:26 AM by 13579


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in sorts i will agree, you see you say a tree can not be aware that it is a tree, i ask you

what makes you so aware that you are human? does a tree ask why it is a tree?

or is the tree wrong? and does not ask because You feel a tree as not the gift givin to you?

This is the mistake.. you and the tree BOTH grow you ask why? the tree asks why

because the tree gets its answers and is happy and you do not ?

who is wrong?



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:27 AM by Conclusion


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Trees perceive the sunshine and grow toward it. I believe they do perceive.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:29 AM by 13579


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i smile

Death is but a word, and so is life.

death is a drak place that nothing happens so im told!! but yet when i think of this dark place, was it that place that in fact created my life? is that not the place i shall go back to??

dark? hmm sounds more like LIGHT than dark if one is to look at it as a whole? for you only live once but you die twice ; )

hehe



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:32 AM by Agree2Disagree


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Oh but I have my answers friend. Ask and you shall receive.

The analogy concerning the tree was only a simple one. It gets much more complex.

edit: I understand the fallacies of the tree analogy. However, there's no easy way to say what needs to be said.

[edit on 13-11-2009 by Agree2Disagree]



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:32 AM by Conclusion


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I am sorry I do not understand what you mean. I asked where do we go from here. You know how do we get to the next level? Is it death? Or is it an ascension sort of thing? Or is it just being? It is the choices that we make that affect our life? It has to be. But the question is which way do we go. The answer is out there waiting for the question.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:34 AM by Conclusion


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Just as life which is opposite of death, has choices. Death has to contain the opposite. It is then when we learn if we chose the wrong path to that destination.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:37 AM by Conclusion


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If there is anything that needs to be said, let it be said. For if it needs to be done, let it be done.



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reply posted on 13-11-2009 @ 03:37 AM by Agree2Disagree


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"Where do we go?" is only answered by the action of going.

You'll find out when you get there.



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