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There's a growing outcry that one element of the newly chosen Flight 93 National Memorial represents Islam and is a slap in the face to the passengers and crew members who died on the hijacked plane four years ago.
The winning design, announced Wednesday in Washington, D.C., includes what is called the "Crescent of Embrace." That element of the project calls for two rows of red maple trees to be planted around a bowl-shaped piece of land adjacent to the crash site. The trees, according to the architects, are there to create a physical edge to the landscape and accentuate the topography.
Almost immediately upon seeing the design, online bloggers suggested that it is inappropriate to use a red crescent in the memorial.
www.post-gazette.com...
But the architects who created the winning design say their design has nothing to do with Islam.
"A crescent is part of architectural vocabulary. It's a generic form used in design," said Paul Murdoch, one of the winning architects. "We don't see any one group having ownership of it."
Originally posted by Army
HAHAHHAHAHahahahahahaaaaaaa! Not one, but TWO Sidewinders
Do you realize the large smoke trail these leave? Do you realize they make a huge roaring noise? Do you realize, if the aircraft was at normal cruise elevation, it was out of range of a Sidewinder?
Do you realize how silly you sound?
F-16 Pilot
CLAIM: In February 2004, retired Army Col. Donn de Grand-Pre said on "The Alex Jones Show," a radio talk show broadcast on 42 stations: "It [Flight 93] was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down 93." LetsRoll911.org, citing de Grand-Pre, identifies the pilot: "Major Rick Gibney fired two Sidewinder missiles at the aircraft and destroyed it in midflight at precisely 0958."
FACT: Saying he was reluctant to fuel debate by responding to unsubstantiated charges, Gibney (a lieutenant colonel, not a major) declined to comment. According to Air National Guard spokesman Master Sgt. David Somdahl, Gibney flew an F-16 that morning--but nowhere near Shanksville. He took off from Fargo, N.D., and flew to Bozeman, Mont., to pick up Ed Jacoby Jr., the director of the New York State Emergency Management Office. Gibney then flew Jacoby from Montana to Albany, N.Y., so Jacoby could coordinate 17,000 rescue workers engaged in the state's response to 9/11. Jacoby confirms the day's events. "I was in Big Sky for an emergency managers meeting. Someone called to say an F-16 was landing in Bozeman. From there we flew to Albany." Jacoby is outraged by the claim that Gibney shot down Flight 93. "I summarily dismiss that because Lt. Col. Gibney was with me at that time. It disgusts me to see this because the public is being misled. More than anything else it disgusts me because it brings up fears. It brings up hopes--it brings up all sorts of feelings, not only to the victims' families but to all the individuals throughout the country, and the world for that matter. I get angry at the misinformation out there."
Real link to real reality
Originally posted by Army
Nope, you link to lies and fools.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Isn't there a separate forum with plenty of threads to discuss 9/11 conspiracies? Please don't hijack my thread.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Isn't there a separate forum with plenty of threads to discuss 9/11 conspiracies? Please don't hijack my thread.
Originally posted by cargo
No, this is the forum for discussing 911 conspiracies. And yes there are pletny of threads about it. But it could be argued that this belongs in BTS if all you want to discuss is what the arc memorial represents design-wise to people.
Originally posted by reallivespook
I'd tell you why the design was hidden but it's too hard to handle the truth.
Besides, the moderators on this board tend to delete my posts because I don't talk about conspiracy theories. I pass along facts. Provable, verifiable facts. But they get deleted before you can see them. NOW THATS A STRANGE CONSPIRACY!!!
Originally posted by reallivespook
besides, the moderators on this board tend to delete my posts because I don't talk about conspiracy theories. I pass along facts. Provable, verifiable facts. But they get deleted before you can see them. NOW THATS A STRANGE CONSPIRACY!!!
He hopes to raise 60 million dollars to help pay for the construction of the national memorial in Shanksville, PA at the flight 93 crash site and to help buy the land necessary to create the national park.
www.americas911memorial.com...
Population (year 2000): 245, Est. population in July 2002: 238 (-2.9% change)
Males: 119 (48.6%), Females: 126 (51.4%)
Elevation: 2230 feet
County: Somerset
Land area: 0.2 square miles
Zip code: 15560
Median resident age: 35.5 years
Median household income: $29,792 (year 2000)
Median house value: $59,500 (year 2000
"You can call it all kinds of things. We can call it an arc. We can call it a circle. We can call it the edge of the bowl. The label doesn't matter to us in terms of intent.