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Originally posted by XGovGirl
there was flooding and damage to the Michoud facility, also the NASA/old military facility and a part used by Entergy for Waterford III spent fuel storage.
Norco Shell also took in excess spent fuel from the Waterford III plant....
Now if Entergy has had an ongoing spent fuel storage issue, why not think it's offsite.
The fact they were the only ones allowed to respond to fires makes me believe there was 100% something wrong.
What to do for gas fires:
Natural gas fires are best extinguished by shutting off the source of the gas at the appliance supply valve or at the main gas valve. If you put out the gas fire with an extinguisher before the gas supply is shut off, the unignited gas could accumulate and explode.
Please provide more definite proof that spent fuel rods from Waterford were stored at Michoud.
Please provide more definite proof that spent fuel rods from Waterford were stored at Norco Shell.
Because it would have been illegal and impossible to move the fuel without someone figuring out that it was illegal.
Why is it unusual that the gas company wants to handle gas leaks?
Makes sense to me.
Originally posted by Ginny in CO
It's amazing how fast stuff can be taken off a computer.
"The couple are volunteers with the American Red Cross. They left Utah Aug. 29, and arrived in Little Rock, Ark. -- about 1,500 miles from home -- three days later. From there, they were dispatched to Hahnville in St. Charles Parish -- another 425 miles.
"There's a lot of destruction," Vicki Watts said."
"Hahnville, in southern Louisiana, is an area of bayous, blues and boudin -- the ubiquitous southern Louisiana sausage. It was spared the worst of the flooding washed ashore by Hurricane Katrina.
Evacuated New Orleans residents, however, have been pouring into town. Others have simply walked from flooded parts of St. Charles Parish. All are brought to a staging area at Eual Landry School in Hahnville.
"Valero Energy Corp. said its St. Charles refinery in Norco, La., which has capacity of 260,000 barrels a day, might not be restarted for another two weeks, but other big refiners in the region have yet to report the impact on their own facilities."
"Marathon said over the weekend that its Garyville, La., refinery west of New Orleans should be fully operational early this week. Valero said it's still hoping to restart this week its St. Charles refinery about 15 miles from New Orleans."
"08.31.2005, 07:04 AM Access to the Motiva Norco refinery and Shell Norco chemical facilities in Louisiana and the Shell Mobile chemical plant in Alabama remains limited. These facilities are still shut while Shell checks for damages." www.forbes.com...
Dallas Meeting Plans
N.O. Rebuilding -
Without Poor Blacks
By Wayne Madsen
Dallas meeting plans reconstruction of New Orleans without poor African Americans. According to well-informed New Orleans sources, New Orleans' wealthiest families, including those who are direct descendants of the French who settled New Orleans (not the Acadians [Cajuns] who were poor refugees from British tyranny in Nova Scotia) are meeting in Dallas today with Bush administration officials, New Orleans city officials, wealthy Texas oilmen, and bankers to plan for the reconstruction of New Orleans. These wealthy New Orleans residents live in the gated community of Audobon Place, a section of the city near the Garden District replete with personal helipads that still has running water and sewage and was only slightly affected by hurricane Katrina. It is now reportedly being patrolled by private Israeli security forces. Yesterday's Wall Street Journal ran a piece with more details on this story.
The Dallas meeting focused on rebuilding and re-zoning New Orleans without the "criminal element," a code word for the city's poor African American community.
These New Orleans residents have been scattered across the United States and are now under the control of FEMA. There is an understanding by the wealthy New Orleans elite that the poor will never be able to return. The Journal reported that the person who chaired the Dallas meeting was Jimmy Riess, one of the wealthy New Orleans elite who also served as Mayor Ray Nagin's Chairman of the Regional Transit Authority, which is in charge of the city's buses, trolleys, and trains. New Orleans sources report that public transportation was purposely not used to evacuate the poor New Orleans residents as a means to depopulate the poorer and more flood-prone sections of the city.
Originally posted by Ginny in CO
Ethnic cleansing, American style? Note it's not enough that they will lose so much of their housing, let's not even use the city buses to keep them from drowning. Even my Atheist soul wants to say "Lord, have mercy".
Having slept and contemplated a bit. I have a scenario and a suggestion.
The possibility of the leak explains all the stupid delays, refusing to let people in, etc. Forgive me for wanting this to not be as bad as it could be. However, as inept as the Bush administration is, and as greedy as some of the Entergy officials are, I am wondering if THEY paniced about this and held off responding because they were trying to figure it out. ( I would think the water measurements could have been pretty conclusive but maybe not. I am also VERY fond of the idea "The difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence has its limits")
Contacting Judicial Watch was very good. Is there a knowledgable person, professor at some University, whatever. who could consider this and either give some direction for what/where to look or whether at this point it would have to start coming into the plans and the recovery efforts. To have ignored the danger before hand is unbelievable. To delay making an anouncement due to the potential panic was stupid.
To knowingly continue to put civilians in a contaminated area for recovery without any protection is criminal. To plan to rebuild and let residents back in without having this out, is delusional.
I wouldn't put most of it past BushCo. I also think it would be too big to delay an announcement this long-especially given the volunteers coming from all over the country.
This guy sounds like someone who is not willing to cover the facts - or lack there of:
Hugh Kaufman, a senior policy analyst for the Office of Solid Waste and Emergency Response with 35 years of experience at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in Washington, addressed his concerns with NEWSWEEK’s Bao Ong. Excerpts:
NEWSWEEK: What do you think about the mayor of New Orleans saying he’ll reopen the city in the coming days?
Hugh Kaufman: The mayor said New Orleans will “breathe again.” Yeah, they’ll breathe bacteria, viruses and volatizing toxic chemicals. There is no environmental assessment. I mean, you can’t even make a determination of the risk factor. But more important, we don’t know what to tell the public in terms of what their risk is when they come back. The public thinks it’s safe. It’s one of the more reckless and irresponsible government decisions made in the last decade. Second only to [former EPA chief] Christie Todd Whitman after [the] World Trade towers came down [saying], “We’ve tested the air and it’s safe. So ya’ll come back.” And now [some] of the people that came back are sick as dogs.
NEWSWEEK: What do you think the government is basing its decisions on?
Hugh Kaufman: There is no environmental characterization that has been accomplished. There’s been a lot of political spin but no valid environmental assessment to determine the amount of hazardous material, bacteria and viruses that are in the air, in the muck and in the dust that the people would be exposed to 24/7 when they go back.
NEWSWEEK: Can you talk more specifically about these toxins and they risks they pose?
Hugh Kaufman: You’ve got oil and petroleum products, which have toxic constituents that have been documented to cause cancer. You have other chemicals coming from landfills and Superfund sites that haven’t been documented. You’ve documented chromium, arsenic and lead, which with some of the other toxic chemicals can cause birth defects, spontaneous abortions, illness—short term and long term—and asthma. Until a thorough assessment is completed of the three pathways—air, direct contact and ingestion of hazardous materials—until that assessment has been done, nobody can quantify how many more cancers, how many more deaths will occur down the line as a result of precipitous interaction with these hazardous and toxic materials that are ever present in that region of the country.