posted on Sep, 21 2005 @ 04:27 AM
With all due respect Leon,
I find your arguments to be rather lacking, and here's why...
A: The papers:
Without being able to see the actual writing on the papers themselves, any speculation about what is on, or not on them is just that; pure
speculation. There is a myriad of possible reasons why someone would refer to their papers is just such a way, not the least of which, is that he
wasn't reading from the papers, but referring to quickly jotted and disjointed notes about what he wanted to say. Thus, I'd have to say that
argument is pretty weak.
B: Mr. Berg was incredibly pale, and therefore already dead:
This one just doesn't fly as well, but for a number of reasons..the first being, that a pale complexion does not indicate death. It could have
been from being extremely scared, malnourishment, or even just an artifact of the washed out colors of the video. Second, even if one concedes that
Mr. Berg was already dead, I see no way in which this could be construed as evidence that he was killed by U.S. forces. It is just as likely that the
terrorists killed Mr. Berg with a gunshot or other means, and then beheaded him for the video. Furthermore, if I recall correctly, Mr. Berg did indeed
move at the beginning of the video, and therefore the tape had to have been edited at some point if Mr. Berg was killed before he was beheaded.
C: The Terrorists behind Mr. Berg were big:
I think ShadowXIX has already proven that the "fat terrorsists" are not indicative of them being U.S. forces. And here again, the video is of
such poor quality that one cannot be sure that the terrorists are not wearing ammo vests or some other item underneath their visible clothing.
D: The orange suit is similiar to those issued to prisoners by U.S. forces:
This I think is your stongest argument, although I think you'll find that it too doesn't hold up to scrutiny. In one of the earlier threads,
there was some discussion of this, and there were photos posted of a popular Indian/arab garb called a kurta. One could very well argue that the
properties of Mr. Berg's clothing (reflective, and light) were more like said kurta, than the jumpsuits issued to Iraqi prisoners.
E: No blood squirt from the inflicted neck wound:
Once again, I have to refer you to the earlier thread, in which I posted the comments of a fairly well known (in the U.S.) forensic pathologist,
one Cyril Wecht who emphatically stated that the video did show a decapitation. I personally have no first hand experience in decapitating a living
creature, but I would feel comfortable stating that unless that artery was severed in that first stab, that it is at least possible that the expected
jet of blood could have been released into the throat, rather than exiting the body at high speed. Further, if one concedes your earlier point that
Nick Berg was dead before the decapitation, then the point it mute.
F: The Nikes:
No offence Leon, but this argument is ridiculous. For one to asssume that the presence of Nike footwear on the terrorists is indicative of them
being U.S. forces, one would have to assume that Nikes are not available anywhere in the Middle East. This is just plain wrong. In fact, Nikes while
not nearly as popular as Adidas, are still none the less available in Sudia Arabia, Lebanon, the United Arab Emirates and other Mid-East countries.
So while I do find the murder of Mr. Berg to be an interesting mystery, I just don't see any evidence that points to it being an American