Besides Rep Cynthia McKinney, who out there in the mainstream, within government, a position of power, or otherwise in non alternative media cricles supports the 9/11 Turth Movement? Meaning they believe that the government either allowed or elements of the government helped orchestrate 9/11? Or at the very least that the official story is very wrong?

Michael Moore had such a wonderful oppurtunity to present even 1/100th the alarming anomalies and facts that tear away at the official story, yet he fumbled the ball and white washed the whole thing. Only thing he touched on was the Bush/bin Laden connection and that was it.

Just curious who is on the side of exposing the truth? Any comedians? Cartoonists? Anyone? I know if the late comedian Bill Hicks was alive
he'd have plenty to say.

People don't want a revolution, they dont want anarchy...they just want whoever was in the White House that was criminally negligent/complacent or involved behind bars much like Enron and other coverups were exposed and jailed.

Michael Moore is nothing but a shill IMO. He's one of those who perpetuate the left/right paradigm.

The neocons are liars and so are the liberals. Which is why I vote third party now.

Originally posted by 8bitagent
Michael Moore had such a wonderful oppurtunity to present even 1/100th the alarming anomalies and facts that tear away at the official story, yet he fumbled the ball and white washed the whole thing. Only thing he touched on was the Bush/bin Laden connection and that was it.

He had an opportunity yes, but I think he did the right thing. He made a "socially acceptable" docu that spoke to alot of people. That would not have been the case if he tried to blame the government for 9/11.
He never drew any conclusions in his docu, he presented you the facts, what followed is your responsibility not his.

I'm happy with what he did in his docu, I'm sure it had a powerfull effect because of the size of the crowd he managed to reach with it. Something that would not have been the case if he starting throwing acquisations. Don't forget that before fahrenheit 9/11 there weren't that much docu's about the conspiracy, in a way Moore propelled a large amount of people to look for the truth. And some decided to follow his path and make documentaries. I really think we should be happy with people like him.

Don't expect the entire thruth to come into an hour and a half movie.

Maybe you are right about Moore at least opening the way for the mainstream acceptance that there is something not right with the Bush administration. But he omits three five BIG things: Osama being treated in Dubai and meeting with a CIA operative in july 2001, the Pakistani ISI head who supposedly wired 100 k to atta meeting with top washington officials the morning of 9/11, NORAD's coincidental hijacker wargames and standing down on 9/11 and of course WTC7 and the forewarnings.

And there is certainly presedent for high level officials in the CIA and elsewhere
coming out with their conscience. Remember, former CIA head chief Bill Colby before he died of questionable causes, came out to support John Decamp in his uncovering of the Franklin/Washington elite child sex ring that reached the whitehouse. Former whitehouse official o'neil also spoke out before he died on 9/11.

Thing is, I BET a lot of celebs know something was up, but fear saying anything for looking like a loon. I think in the years to come that stigma will ease as people see Bush and company doing other bad things.

That's a great list and thanks for posting it. It's still a shame that of all our elected officials at the national level, only Congresswoman McKinney is a supporter of the 9/11 Truth Movement. It's at times like this that I really miss the late, great Paul Wellstone, from my home state. There are a lot of rumors that he was determined to "find things out" about 9/11 after he was re-elected---then his plane "crashed," and there went all those hopes.
---Ryan

Every politician should be fighting for the truth of 9/11 - not least, trying to find out exactly why the CIA allowed bin Laden to rise to such heights aided by nice healthy chunks of CIA money. Then there's the entire Saudi Arabia and Pakistan links which have been largely ignored.

And quite honestly, they should watch Moore's film and realise that it's 10% truth mixed up with 60% rhetoric, 20% hyperbole and 10% utter horlicks.

I agree - Moore had a unique, perfect opportunity, and he completely blew it.

Worse (for him at least), he himself came off looking like an overwrought, over-excitable buffoon.

Every politician should be fighting for the truth of 9/11

Aren't most of them in on the conspiracy?

I think there's a thread somewhere about Hunter S. Thompson was going to reveal something, or was that something completely different?

Hunter S. Thompson was working on an expose of the Republican pedophile-sex ring when he "committed suicide," as far as I have heard so far he was not particularly doing any 9/11-based research.
---Ryan

Ohh right, I wasn't sure what he was onto....

He was definitely on the trail of soemthing big with that story, but how big, unfortuantely, is something that we now will never know.
---Ryan

Originally posted by RyanC
Hunter S. Thompson was working on an expose of the Republican pedophile-sex ring when he "committed suicide," as far as I have heard so far he was not particularly doing any 9/11-based research.
---Ryan

That's correct I think. Hunter S Thompson was writing his next book about the big child sex ring that serviced Washington DC's top elite and businessmen in the 1980's. Most people have no idea about this, but it's already either jailed, ruined the lives or killed a lot of people invovled in uncovering it. Former CIA head John Colby who was helping Senator Decamp with the exposing of the coverup died in 1996 of mysterious causes, as did some of the witnesses.

Paul Bonnoci, who won a $1 million civil law settlement in the case, identified
in a journal from 1985 that he was taken to Bohemian Grove where some of Washington's elite...well let's just say its unthinkable. He said a Hunter Thompson was there in attendance. Several of the children/teens from the Lawrence King political sex partied identitified Bush Sr. as haven been at at least one of these parties in Illinois during his 1984 campaign.

Hunter S Thompson was also supposedly working on a 9/11 expose, but who knows. But folks, this is what happens when prominent people try to uncover the turth. Look at the guy who uncovered the CIA-Crack in LA-contras thing? He got shot!

Anyways, FBI 30 year veteran and Richard Clarke associate John O'Neil was kind of a whistleblower from the dead if you will, supposedly he was getting way to close to the truth of al Qaeda and was told to back away, and then there was a scandal involving him and him saying by pullin gback the Bush's were allowing 9/11 to happen.

Then ya also have high level officials supposedly saying that the supposed hijackers on thos eplanes were actually FBI informants staying with fbi folks, and in drills NORAD was conducting the weeks leading to 9/11. interesting.

I've certainly heard rumors that he was looking into 9/11 stuff, but I've never seen anything in print, hence my statement that I never heard of anything concrete in regards toDr. Thompson and 9/11. I had seen some print and internet references to his looking into the Republican pedophile -sex ring---maybe he was looking into both, and we'll never be able to tell which one got him "suicided," so to spreak.
---Ryan

[edit on 14-9-2005 by RyanC]

Either way, Thompson was writing to expose one of two major scandals(the Franklin child sex ring/9/11) that should rightfully put one of the Bushes away for life.

As far as suspsicious deaths, remember former CIA head Bill Colby who was helping in the Franklin coverup died mysteriously in 1996...and the guy who uncovered the CIA/crack thing got shot.

Yeah, that's right---Colby "drowned" in a "canoeing accident"---his computer and lights were on at his vacation home and dinner was left at his table half-finished ---and Gary Webb, the journalist you speak of, was "suicided" just a few months ago.
---Ryan

Originally posted by RyanC
Yeah, that's right---Colby "drowned" in a "canoeing accident"---his computer and lights were on at his vacation home and dinner was left at his table half-finished ---and Gary Webb, the journalist you speak of, was "suicided" just a few months ago.
---Ryan

It's been reported numerous times that Colby never would suddenly leave in the early morning without a life jacket and randomly go canoeing. And how convenient that Gary Webb was gunned down. This is why ultimately Michael Moore and those types of shills are safe from any sort of backlash from the government, as they help to make a charictature of Bush that white washes everything.

Great thread.

I guess all of these people are just "conspiracy crackpots" too. What a joke. The only crackpots are the ones in self-denial who refuse to accept that there's anything wrong with the official lie.