I'm not sure how credible your report is... but it does sound like something that could have happened.

A Question for you tho:
What would you have done?

Imagine you have patients who are reliant on life support, but the power has gone out. You know that it's only a matter of time before they die. There is nothing you can do.

No one is coming.
What do you do?
They are screaming.
What do you do?
No one is coming.
What do you do?


Stew on that for awhile before you pass any moral judgment.

If I had a certain medication in short supply and I had to pick between an 80 year old man and 18 year old teenager I would pick the teenager because he hasn't experienced life.

Ummm... no offence but that looks like some of that British Tabloid Press you keep hearing about.

It probably contains some bits of truth but presented in a sensasionalist way.
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[edit on 9/11/2005 by Gools]

Originally posted by Gools
Ummm... no offence but that looks like some of that British Tabloid Press you keep hearing about.

It probably contains some bits of truth but presented in a sensasionalist way.

I would have to agree with you. Considering the source I will not comment on that as its at bests maybe 1/10th percent truth mixed in with 99.9 percent garbage.

Did patients die because they ran out of electricty? Some perhaps. Did the staff who were taking turns in many hospitals hand ventalating patients kill them off? I doubt it.

Whats the big deal, they're not really killing them they're dying anyways. Its like a war over there, just like in any battlefield you can't save them all but you can make them more comfortable

I "lost " this thread before I could reply before (it MAY have been my sick P.C.'s fault) so responded on the thread about ATS being a possible threat to national security.

Were the 30 residents of a nursing home reported to have been left to drown, "mercifully" killed first? I saw this report on Australian news and wondered if that wasn't what happened. Any of you Americans heard that report? Is it true? Did the staff of a nursing home really evacuate themselves and leave those they were paid to care for, to drown?

Loam I read the article you posted, this guy worked on the Space SHuttle if I recall, but the article you posted has nothing to do with doctors killing thier patients.

BTW on the intial topic.. It would have to be Doctors and Nurses as most MD's could not give an IV morphine injection to save thier lives

FredT

I expected this Dr. McQueen to be some untraceable source. The Telegraph article at least confirms he was there in NO. Moreover, the original article directly quotes him.

I guess I'm saying that I didn't find anything to discount his story all together.

Originally posted by TheShroudOfMemphis
For those that have a Google disability

Brilliant....I admit being sloppy on this one. Somehow I missed reference to these other articles. Just went straight for the good Dr.'s background.

(a legit Scottish paper)...

also presumptive on everyone's part....ooops.

Anyway, good job.

[edit on 12-9-2005 by loam]

I'm going to have to add my hearsay to this thread which I usually don't like to to, but this may be relevant. My manager in London has family who live and work in New Orleans - they survived the hurricane (as many others did) but the aunt (who is a doctor) has disappeared. She is not a tourist and has lived with her family in NO for the last few years. I don't think she would appear on the embassy's tourist list, although she must certainly be on a different list by now.

At first she was able to contact the family to let them know she was fine and was being kept at the hospital by armed guards at gunpoint. Supposedly this was being done for her own protection from looters and druggies.

The problem is no one has heard from her since. My manager, an old crusty sort, is a straight shooter - not well versed in conspiracies or odd speculation. He is understandbly quite concerned and upset about his relatives. He keeps me updated as to whether they have heard from her - but I must say it all looks very suspicious and not very good for his family.

His cousin who had a trailer outside of NOLA also disappeared, but they think he probably was evacuated or perished in the floods.

Sad indeed.

Originally posted by BitRaiser
A Question for you tho:
What would you have done?

Well I can tell you what I wouldn't have done, I wouldn't have broken Alabama law and the Hippocratic oath in one fell swoop by euthanizing patients.

Does anyone still doubt that this happened ?

The bigger question is why is it not being picked up by the mainstream US news outlets ?????

I am pretty sure this is true. I heard a first-hand report of this on an NPR news program, I forget which one. It sounded pretty brutal. A nurse said he asked a doctor what they were going to do with a 450 lb critically ill man who could not be evaced, and she said "We are going to help him get to heaven" (by injecting him with morphine).

It seems that the U.S. can't dare to have people lose their great blind faith in and respect for "Medical Proffessionals".

As someone you grewup with "Medical Proffessionals" I found that too many of them only deserve the respect of your average con man. Not all, yes there are many fine caring people in "that Business" but far too many that carry 'respect' and POWER like a bludgeon.

I won't elaborate lest I get accussed of "bashing" and the thread goes off topic but it is time people stopped revereing people as better than good just because of their job title or affiliations. There are 'bad apples' on every tree and some 'trees' produce more than fair share of 'bad apples'.

They weren't bad apples. It was the humane thing to do.

just for the records, this story was in all the regular newspapers here in Slovenia, si i guess its mainstream news and not some made up story.