While Katrina pounded the U.S. there is a point that needs to be stressed.

Haggai 2:6
For thus saith the LORD of hostsYet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;

2:7
And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come(this is a reference to Jesus): and I will fill this house with glory,

you say it's a reference to jesus, but isn't that YOUR interpretation?

why would god displace and kill so many innocents?

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
you say it's a reference to jesus, but isn't that YOUR interpretation?

why would god displace and kill so many innocents?

Mine as well as others.

We live in a world where sin causes huge problems. We are experiencing what a world that rejects God is like.

Originally posted by dbrandt

Originally posted by LCKob
LCKob:

I neither deny the existance of God or celebrate it. Maybe Jesus did exist but his life and history has been warped and distorted to such a degree that the real truth about the man may be lost to us forever.

Then again maybe It's all a fabrication, a tool of social control to keep the peasents quiet and sedated by promsing them reward in the afterlife.

The other possibility is the Bible has it right. Jesus is who He said He was, and no one comes to the Father but through Him.

Could be ... but just for the record, the quote is from St. Jude ... I did not catch the transcriptional error in time for a revision. To be more accurate as to my view ... I think in retrospect, I would stick with just the first part ...

I neither deny the existance of God or celebrate it. Maybe Jesus did exist but his life and history is open to interpretation and speculation.

LCKob

Anything other than perfection was not brought into this world by God.

Man brought sin, evil, and suffering into this world.

People need to stop blaming God and stop taking holy Scriptures out of context in an attempt to prove their false religious doctrines!

Man brought sin, evil, and suffering into this world.

Whoa Whoa Whoa... back up an itsy bit... yea right there!

*pulls lever*


... Who created evil? Not me. Not you. Not the axe murdurer down the street across from that school.

No sir. The man in charge created all that we see. Including *gasp* evil! So how is it MAN brought all this about? Last time I heard man doesn't have the power to create and destroy at the same level as this supposed god of your's.

[quoteGod is not guilty!


Indeed not. If God were to destroy all He has created it would be just and fair. 'For all have sinned and fallen short...'

That being said, I believe that weather manipulation for fun and profit is going on.

Originally posted by Produkt

Man brought sin, evil, and suffering into this world.

Whoa Whoa Whoa... back up an itsy bit... yea right there!

*pulls lever*


... Who created evil? Not me. Not you. Not the axe murdurer down the street across from that school.

No sir. The man in charge created all that we see. Including *gasp* evil! So how is it MAN brought all this about? Last time I heard man doesn't have the power to create and destroy at the same level as this supposed god of your's.

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The question is not whether we or God created evil. Of course the creation of good implies the creation of evil. The question is one of free will. Have you chosen good or evil? If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice! Sure, you didn't ask to be born, didn't ask to be given this choice, yet the choice remains. Choose you this day....

Nope sorry, if there's a god it's still his fault. Either way you slice it buddy, he started all this, and him being all knowing and such negate's and true concept of free will and choice cuz umm... all knowing = all knowing = whatever choice's you THINK your making was already written in stone as he ALREADY know's. So, problem's still in his court.

Originally posted by justinstout
Anything other than perfection was not brought into this world by God.

Man brought sin, evil, and suffering into this world.

People need to stop blaming God and stop taking holy Scriptures out of context in an attempt to prove their false religious doctrines!

Hmm, well according to the good book didn't the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil exist in the garden before either Adam or Eve had tasted the fruit? So evil MUST have existed before Adam or Eve had any knowledge of what evil even was.

And exactly who put the wiley ole serpent in the garden with Adam and Eve? How did the serpent come by his knowledge, where did he come by his motivation to get Adam and Eve thrown out, and who gave him the ability to speak with them anyway?

A parent puts a loaded gun in a playpen with two 3 year olds, tells them they can play with ANY other toy except that one. The children obey and dont touch the gun. The parent then puts a craftier, 'bad' child into the playpen with them, a child who proceeds to talk the other two children into picking up the gun and firing it. The parent comes running over, picks the two 3 year olds up, tosses them out of the house into the cold and slams the door.

Do we call this a 'kind and loving' parent or do we bring them up on charges?