Rebuttal to "I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp, page 11

Originally posted by edkostiuk
If I may break down the report that was posted about our facility as Falls Creek in Oklahoma.

Page 1 stated: I packed up two car loads of us and headed over to Falls Creek. In the Emergency Management Community we have asked the population over and over not to "self deploy" and the following reason are given for such request.

Prior to Jesse Jackson making his comments our Governor and the State Officer of Emergency Management asked all Oklahomans to please refrain from using words such as refugees and displaced people. We were asked to use the wording "Oklahoma Guest". This went out on the media here in Oklahoma and in print.

The author of this report continues to use the term refugee throughout the paper.

One of the primary reasons for using Falls Creek was the picturesque area and having the ability by faith-based groups to allow these folks the ability to put their lives back to normal, as much as possible, without having the press and lot’s of concerned citizens hound them for interviews and “how was it”.

We knew from the start that we needed additional security at the site so Oklahoma Highway Patrol officers were assigned in double shifts to protect those “guest” from the media and other “well concerned citizens”.

She states her daughter “turned and snapped a picture of his vehicle (Page 5)—very conspicuously”. There was no reason for some James Bond type of picture taking OHP officers are very friendly and will allow their photo’s and that of their cruisers to be taken.

The reason (page 7) for not allowing clothes was the fact we need to ensure they are clean and in good order. We have over the years at disasters received soiled and dirty diapers, ripped clothes and other related items by well meaning citizens. We now have retired ladies who help us select clothes that can be used by these folks. I have photos’ of thousands of clothes at Fall Creek that were standing by ready to be delivered to these folks.

(Page 8) The occupants of the camp cannot leave the camp for any reason. That is true once they were placed on the busses we had no way to determine their medical status. They have been exposed to several elements and prior to allowing them off camp we wanted to have them checked out by the Doctors and Nurses we had lined up at Falls Creek (Page 15 the people in the blue jump suits). We also had 22 ambulances standing by for medical emergencies. We had a similar camp in Northern Oklahoma and had 4 medical emergencies the night these good folks arrived and they needed immediate transport to a local hospital. Many of these US Citizens arrived with pre-existing medical conditions.

The reason your “pop-tarts” were accepted is they are sealed in an enclosed package and are “tamper proof”. We are trying to protect our Louisiana friends from the criminal element and bad people that might want harm done to them. This is the reason Apples and Oranges were not allowed. I wonder if this lady allowed her children to go around on Thanksgiving and accept open candy from strangers.

Oklahoma never had the intention of accepting 5,000 guests (page 9) as she stated. Our cap and the cap that our governor worked out was 3,000 at falls creek. This is the maximum number of meals, toys, clothes and other related things that needed to be in place prior to our guest arriving.

The Cell phones were put in place by our Office of Emergency Management due to a request of our emergency workers since cell phone coverage is so poor. Cingular and others donated the towers and equipment including the coverage. We also place these cell towers at Falls Creek so once the people were on their feet they could start calling loved ones throughout the country and inform them they were OK.

The toys she refers to must first be checked. We have had “Christian groups” donate toys such as swords, toy guns and other devices that usually mean harm donated to our causes over the years so we check them closely before allowing any kids to play with them.

The meals were going to be provided by the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army. We at the Health Department were requiring that they eat hot food with plenty of vegetables not the “junk food” that this lady stated she was brining. Snacks were to be laid out during the day and night for their use, but meals which included the basic food groups were required 3 times a day.

Mod Edit: Removed phone number

Ed Kostiuk
Oklahoma State Dept of Health
Emergency Management

[edit on 12-9-2005 by ZeddicusZulZorander]

This guy Ed Kostiuk of Oklahoma State Department Health Emergency Management and Bioterrorism Emergency Management Coordinator is a member of ATS? Are you out of your mind? To even think of letting this fascist pig be a member, is a slap in all of our faces.

What did his introduction read as: I think Bush is a fascist-globalist dictator that must be taken down for the good of our country. I think the federal government has way too much power and that most of it should go back to the States. That the 9/11 WTC situation was part of a Hegelian Dialectic in order to bring the New World Order (permanently) into the consciousnesses of the American people, via fear and hysteria, this is the way the USA patriot Act and Homeland Security Act will fall into place. That the entire Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is set up to bring in martial law, to strip all citizens of their basic rights, to throw them all in concentration camps (via the Internal Security Act of 1950). And/or, that the Queen of the Windsor Royal Family runs most of the show. Did he place all this in his introduction? Or did he say something like this:

I am an American, born and raised in America. The greatest country in the world. I will protect and defend her no matter who is the enemy. I rather have death if no liberty. I am a true patriot. I am a man of wisdom, dignity, and that I help my fellow American out when in genuine need. Did he say this?

Or did he say this: I am working undercover for the federal and state government (Oklahoma and President Bush and on down). I am on a mission to infiltrate as many conspiracy theorist sites in order to gain knowledge and eventually figure out a way to get to the most secret knowledge or forums on the given web site and then in turn, to figure out a way, either through a law already on the books or a new law, to shut down the web site in its entirety as being a threat to the national security (be it domestic or international). That I must figure out a way to draw attention to the "rebuttal" in order to infiltrate as many persons that are dissidents to the Bush et al creed. Did his introduction say this?

Or maybe his introduction said this: I am here to spy on you. Huh? Did it say this?

I say, kick his rear out of our community. And if possible, ban his IP from peering over any of our pages. What's next, George Bush a member?

This guy is recruiting people on the Yahoo Group site to help with the emergency management. I signed up as an ex-CIA officer who is currently undergoing an infiltration of abovetopsecret web site. Let's see how he likes it when the tables are turned. He puts comments in his thread that is total crud, and yet expects some guy with a credential to sign up to join his team of emergency management.

And he places his thread on September 11, 2005 as if to say, see what type of conspiracy theory you can infer from this date? The only thing I infer from this guy is, if I don't place my boot to his rear he will conitnue to spy in on our community.