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I'm a tree psychic!

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posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 01:14 AM
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Clairsentience Or Aesthetic Angst?


Originally posted by dollmonster
Don't worry about me Majic. I'm convinced what I've experienced is a form of empathy called clairsentience. I couldn't care less about the opinions of the "narrow minded." No joke!

Well, I'm a skeptic, so I think it's also important to consider the possibility that you were just really upset about the tree being cut down.


That said, I am finding in my own mediations that the boundaries between ourselves and other things, both living and non-living (as we define it) are arbitrary.

We define those boundaries, not nature, and ultimately, I am coming to realize that.

In this case, the reaction you experienced may well have been a result of your “tuning in” to the tree's “vibes”. And yes, I do very much consider that a genuine possibility, because I have felt these sorts of things myself.

However, I'm willing to bet that your empathy is not limited to trees, which is why I asked if you tend to have these kinds of experiences with other things.

So, do you?




P.S. I don't see them with my eyes, but I am very much in touch (or at least think I am) with various sorts of spirits, including what could be called angels and demons (my soul mate is currently an angel, for example), so I'm not one to consider that at all unusual. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only difference is that some people realize that they are, and most don't.




posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 01:35 AM
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interesting...never heard about feeling empathy towards a tree. is it something you do conciously these days? are you also able to communicate with trees?



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by The Surrealist
Please forgive me for my last post, it contained explicit floccinaucinihilipilification. The honorificabilitudinitatibus I feel for the founder of this thread; Dollmaster,
Just trying out my words...


Your polysyllabic words won't baffle us.




dollmonster,
I have felt the spirit of a tree.
I grew up on Vancouver Island and spent a large part of my childhood in the forests of British Columbia. All the kids in my family were somewhat arboreal.
We climbed trees, we built tree forts, and I can't even count the nights I've slept in trees.

I've sat at the base of trees that have stood more generation than I can count in my family.
www.cathedralgrove.com...
www.redwoodvisitor.org...

To touch these giants and stand beneath them gives you a sense of time and history that can't be felt in any other circumstance. They are alive and ancient, for some reason that gives me a chill and a feeling of awe.

I've been to the Petrified Forest National Park ( www.nps.gov... ) and sat beside a large fallen log that had turned to stone. When I leaned my back against the sun heated stone, I felt a connection to history.
I don't know if a 200 million year old tree has a spirit, but I felt comfort when I made contact with that fossil.

I think I understand your feelings about chainsaws. I've used them to clear land, and I always felt for the trees.



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 02:07 AM
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This topic concerns me the more I consider the possibilities.
I don't doubt the energies exuded by plants or animals.
What bothers me is I once put a two bettas in one aquarium.

The following morning one had lept from the water and lay dead on the carpet. I knew it was my fault since these are known as fighting fish who generally attack each other. I had a great deal of empathy for the poor creature.

Now I am wondering, if this paranormal sensitivity holds true:

Could I be a goldfish whisperer?



[edit on 11-9-2005 by garyo1954]



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 03:15 AM
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To answer your question Majic, yes I do feel great empathy for people. For instance, when a grieving person is present, I immediately feel their despair and often driven to tears.

And there's an unnerving dark energy and inhuman coldness I pick up from others once in a while. I also sense people's moods, their impression of me and even their overall character upon contact.

Okay, I guess you could say I'm extremely intuitive of people's feelings and therefore definitely emphatic. I've always been this way about people, but the tree thing is fairly new. Do other emphatics feel trees I wonder?

And to answer an other question: I was definitely furious about the tree's mutilation but certainly not terrified. And terrified is precisely what I felt, believe it or not!



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 08:41 AM
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I can empathize with dollmonster. Maybe he isn't a tree psychic, but gosh-darn, seeing your tree mowed down :shk:
It would certanily be emotional for me.
I have many plants in my computer room and I really think they have a calming effect. They certainly release more oxygen into the room.
I guess I am a plant empath, too.


I am a gardener and am in such utter awe of the mystery plantlife.
A beautiful flower can almost bring me to tears.
To sit in the summer and watch bees and butterflies visiting flowers, well, that is just about a perfect day.

So, maybe dollmonster and I share something with the plant kingdom



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 01:59 PM
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Thats very cool! :-)
I cant believe the cheek of those first replies, specially from a sort of mod. I mean, this is a duscussion board, and this is a duscussion! O and the pic of static X said more about that dude than after he spoke


but yer thats cool! People scoff at tree huggers, they must have what you have. People can be very sensative to energys, heck we're made out of the stuff (on a much deeper level..) I happen to to see energy, especially with my eyes closed, I also help plants to grow by energy work! We could use our powers together lol

Woodsy



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 06:33 PM
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It's possible..
Plants have feelings...
they're alive.
plants tend to reach out to me too...
I like being in a forest plants even trees tend to reach for me...
plants try and catch you before you leave..
they think differently though since they stay in one place
but if they are undisturbed (like in the woods) they're pretty happy
... It's the way they're supposed to be,
Artist



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 07:14 PM
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Dollmonster,
I read a book by the psychic James Van Prague .
He said he can feel the enegry of plants crying out for water upon just entering a room. Even before he sees the plant.

Perhaps it is not so far fetched. I believe you and have heard others stories like yours. If you'd like to U2U me I'll tell you about one in particular.
I may be too sensitive to post it here.



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 08:50 PM
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Trees are one of the oldest forms of life on this planet Earth. Trees have feelings their root system goes into the Mother Earth they have a pulse of what is happening to the enviroment before most humans. Trees know if their surroundings have been polluted which includes rain, ground water and air. Trees stand in the open mostly and feel all the elements from the weather cold and hot wind and rain and lack of rain including fire thru their trunk, branches, limbs, bark and leaves. The rings of a tree tell the story how many years a tree has lived and what kind of weather was taking place over those years. Yes trees have feelings from a seed they are given life when minerals, nutrients in the soil and water active the seed or germinate it into tree life. Trees also die some trees living to 2000 years old and what a book they could write about the Earth's changes. Trees live and die and they speak and sing thru the breeze telling their life's story. Yes I believe trees communicate to gifted human beings and other tree and plant life. No you are not crazy but gifted. Rik Riley



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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I'd like to point out just one thing before anyone continues reading, posting, and supporting this topic:

(Say this outloud and think rationally about the following statement)

"Im a tree psychic!"

Thank you.



posted on Sep, 11 2005 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by Raideur
I'd like to point out just one thing before anyone continues reading, posting, and supporting this topic:

(Say this outloud and think rationally about the following statement)

"Im a tree psychic!"

Thank you.


I did it, and I feel great (though a little fern burdened), how about you now saying:

"I will only contribute in a serious, and content positive manner on ATS, otherwise I'll find the appropriate forum on BTS for my "opinions," and even then I won't attack other members."

I bet you'll feel great after saying all that, and maybe even a little winded.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Etiquette Monkeys, not just for having something nice to say anymore...



posted on Sep, 14 2005 @ 02:33 PM
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I said "I'm a tree psychic" and I thought I felt nice too!
Raideur, you need to stop pointing the finger at people, either accept people or get off of ATS altogether!
YOU ARE SO FREAKING ANNOYING!
I know that was out of context, but it was nesessary!
Artist



posted on Sep, 14 2005 @ 04:02 PM
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Hello, My Name Is Majic, And I'm A Tree Psychic!


Originally posted by Raideur
I'd like to point out just one thing before anyone continues reading, posting, and supporting this topic:

(Say this outloud and think rationally about the following statement)

"Im a tree psychic!"

Thank you.

I said it, and now I don't feel ashamed anymore.


This thread is coming to symbolize much more than the issue of “tree psychics” (in this case, I see “clairsentience” as being a fancy name for empathy, by the way).

What's going on here is important, because this thread is serving as a warning to people who may want to discuss things that most people would consider “crazy”.

Guess what?

This Is The Paranormal Studies Forum!

This is precisely the kind of thing this forum is for. dollmonster is on topic. Posts in this thread about things other than being a “tree psychic” or “clairsentient” and the underlying spiritual implications of them are off topic.

Is dollmonster just pulling our leg? Maybe, I don't know. But more importantly, I don't care, because it doesn't matter.

The topic is still a legitimate one for this forum, and the discussion surrounding it can be worthwhile, if certain members can overcome the impulse to be juvenile about it.

This form of empathy is not a new concept. Every aboriginal people on earth -- including the ancestors of “modern” cultures -- has practiced some form of Animism or Paganism and embraced ideas that are no less strange than this one: that all living things are spiritually connected.

Here's a hint: if a belief is found in every culture, that means it is probably inherent to human beings. That means it is important.

If you want to point fingers at someone for being a “tree psychic”, be sure to go around ridiculing aboriginal people for believing in “spirits”.

That is, by the way, the exact sort of spiritual chauvinism that I'm seeing here, and I'm not impressed.

The Hazards Of Stepping Forward

I see this “tree psychic” business as kind of cute because of the thread title, but the underlying subject is 100% valid.

The reason I'm jumping all over this thread is that I know what it feels like to have people brand me as a troll for daring to post things that defy cultural norms.

A year ago, I was posting things to this forum that make “tree psychic” seem more mainstream than Christianity. I personally know how hard it can be to overcome the inhibition to talk about things that sound “crazy” to other people.

Want something “crazy” to poke fun at? Check these threads out:

Confessions Of A Dark Sorceror

Predictions Of The Prophet Yoshiel

And most recently, if you want something bizarre to listen to and get a chuckle out of, you can check out my podcasts on all that in the Member PODcasts forum, starting with:

Majic's Big Adventure Vol 1

The Point Of The Exercise

People have branded me with all kinds of labels for talking about that stuff, but I know for a fact that I am being as honest about my experiences as I possibly can be.

Does that mean it's true? No. It just means I'm honestly reporting what I have experienced.

Maybe if enough people do that, we might see some patterns emerge and possibly even Deny Ignorance.

People come to ATS looking for answers. In order to find them, especially in cases like these where public attitudes are so damn ignorant and close-minded, people need to be able to speak freely without fear of being taunted by a bunch of childish schoolyard bullies.

It is essential to the purpose and integrity of this forum that members be able to post honestly without being ridiculed or shouted down.

I invite those who cannot comprehend the importance of this to either read quietly and do their laughing offline or seek entertainment elsewhere.



posted on Sep, 15 2005 @ 02:03 AM
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its a proven fact that all plants are telepathic...so i dont doubt your experience at all...a scientist was doing an experiment with a plant..he had a machine that could read patterns in the plant..he said that he only was thinking.."what if i cut off one of its flowers i wonder what its responds would be?" at the moment he thought that..the graph showed a great jump as if the plant was scared to death of him....anyways..good luck with that..if i had your gift i think i would go crazy...for those of you who dont go outside...there is ALOT of trees..and alot of them being cut down...im sure i would hear them 24-7 screaming and talking..wow...good luck~Kiliker



posted on Oct, 7 2005 @ 12:23 PM
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As Winter approaches, and most deciduous trees become dormant (at least in the colder regions), is there less psychic "chatter?" How are coniferous trees affected?

What does a tree say when it revives in the Spring?



posted on Oct, 7 2005 @ 01:44 PM
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Hey Dollmonster,
I just finished reading a book I would like to recomemnd to you!
It was a work of fiction but a fabulous story revolving around a young woman who had the power in her hands to revive seaminly dead trees and plants. She said she could hear the grass scream when people were mowing and it drove her about nuts. When people trimmed trees she heard a sound she described as 'the hurting crys'
Anyway it was a great read and I could not put it down! Written by Robert McCammon called SWAN SONG.........I bet you would totally relate and love reading it!



posted on Oct, 7 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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I have a small lavender named Ferren that I talk to. I talk to him when I have something on my mind. Sometimes it's almost like he's talking back, because I can sort of feel his opinion. he sends my calming vibes and helps me clear my head, we're really close. Most people call me insanebecause of this, but it's true. You could be missing out on a great relationship by dismissing plants as simply obsolete objects of the background.



posted on Oct, 8 2005 @ 02:56 AM
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In all sincerity, this sounds like a sort of "useless superpower".

If you can sense a trees "feelings" then that isn't the strangest thing in our world is it?

But it seems more likely to me that this occurrance is taking place in your psyche due to some hyper-neurosis or empathy of some sort, although I'm not a professional in this area by any means. My cat gets scared of thunder and I sense his displeasure however I know this isn't a psychic phenomenon but rather an empathy. It doesn't mean that the cat or tree isn't in a state of unease either.

Questions: What is your theory for reliving the tree's pain and terror after the fact? The tree was gone. Was there a negative energy remaining? Do you think that you could have tracked down the tree carcass by a psychic means, perhaps following the trail of negativity?

Also, have you ever heard a chainsaw in the absence of any trees and if so what did YOU feel about it?

I think because plants are alive, they grow positively or negatively somewhat in kind to the environment they are in. Talking to a plant seems like it might help not because the sound or topic of discussion is pleasing to "them". Rather, I think it is the positive feelings behind the talking that could affect them. Positive energy from our mind's to them.

I assume there have been tests of people who HATE plants and yell at them and berate them. Do they tend to whither away?

How could this ability be used to help mankind or treekind? It sounds funny, but maybe we should all give our favorite tree a loving hug once a day.

Do you know if trees like or dislike critters abusing them like woodpeckers and squirrels or do even cats irritate them?

I hope you can take the time to answer some or all of these questions.

[edit on 8-10-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]



posted on Oct, 15 2005 @ 08:03 PM
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Answer to 2nd Hand Thoughts

My tree wasn't completely gone. A tall stump remained. But yes the tree did continue to send out negative energy for some time. It wasn't until there was abundant new growth, about a year and a half later, that I felt the tree was at peace again.

During that time I became a sort of self styled therapist to promote it's healing. I talked to the tree daily sending positive energy from the love and compasion I felt for it. I also gave it frequent physical contact, putting my arms around it, kissing it's bark and stroking it's leaves.

When I first moved to this place, my life was at an all time low. From the very beginning I used the tree as a sort of temple, a focal point for my despair, my rage and even my prayers. The tree became my faithful friend, always listening, always calming, always there.

Many years have passed. I still love this tree and will remain its protector as long as I have the ability to do so.



Violated

Glorious magnificence
The aura of my tree
To view its awesome presence
Forever inspired me

Shimmering cascades of leaves
A tranquil soothing sight
I'd gaze amidst the canopy
Meditating saw the light

Fiends bent on destruction
They descended without warning
Wielding hateful chain saws
Nature's beauty gone that morning

Hobbled though still standing
Severed limbs provide no reach
Frozen now in muteness
Many years to fill this breach

Splendor now a memory
Naked shame revealed to all
Return the shady lushness
Then forever to stand tall



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