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Topic started on 10-9-2005 @ 01:50 PM by NightWish
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These pictures where taken by my boyfriend, about 2.5 years ago. He went to Barcelona with his class for about 4days. On one of their trips they visited an old little church tucked away in the small streets of the city. As my boyfriend was entering the church he immediatly felt uncomfortable, he felt watched and wanted to get the hell out of there. Nevertheless he took one single picture. (I should also mention that my boyfriend does not believe in ghosts, spirits or any other paranormal beings. He did not tell me how he felt untill I confronted him with these pictures. But he seemed very honest and truthfull.)
At first I thought that the lower figure was just another person walking around in the church, but my boyfriend swears that there where only 2 people there at the moment the picture was taken: himself and another man taking pictures. Since you can see the other man in the picture too as he is taking pictures himself, the figure can't be him.
As for the upper figure. I can see a head, with eyes, nose, mouth and even some hair. But that's it, no body. I searched the picture for statues or figures on the wall that might resemble 'the head', but I found nothing. I asked my boyfriend if it was possible that something was hanging from the ceiling (like a lamp or something), but he told me there was no such thing.
I would like to hear your ideas about this picture... Maybe someone can tell me what it is.
The picture has not been altered in any way, just enlarged. It was taken with a digital camera.

Sorry if my explenation is a little bit incoherent, but I'm Dutch, so it's not that simple for me to explain the events. If you have any questions, just shoot

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reply posted on 10-9-2005 @ 02:34 PM by Valleegal
These ghosts are probably examples of "matrixing" -- the eye making something out of something else. We're programmed to see faces, and with the right fall of light and shadow, we see them more easily than anything else. (And when you approach the area you likely won't see any evidence -- the light, shadow, angle is wrong.)

I'm not discounting what you have -- anything is possible. I do a lot of camera work specifically to track down explanations for phenomena. Between certain websites that regularly pass off hoaxed photos as real "ghost pictures" and simple faux anomalies (that true believers will insist are spirits), it's a jungle out there. Add some debunkers like The Amazing Randi (he's not a skeptic, he's abusing the word -- he's a fanatic on the other side of the fence) who insist absolutely everything is fake, it's a megajungle.

Most photos will ultimately yield a down-to-earth answer. But some of them remain mysteries. Those are the ones that make the hunt worth it. If you feel these have mystery, then maybe they do. If you're not so sure, they probably don't.

I've experienced all sorts of phenomena, a good many I can't explain to my satisfaction. (It satisfies me when I can't explain them!). Out of thousands of photos I've taken, I have maybe three that might qualify as containing true anomalies.Might. In my experience, you'll have much better luck experiencing the strange with all your senses. Walk into an old building like the one in your photo and just enjoy the atmosphere with no expectations. You'll be surprised what sometimes pops up.


reply posted on 10-9-2005 @ 04:32 PM by Valleegal
Well, I guess I should've read the directions on quoting. Mucked that up. I just wanted to say that if you want to experience something, go to a place that's a well-known haunt -- something that attracts tourists. Try to go when it's been open all day and packed with people hoping for ghosts. Find a quiet spot and sit down and just soak it up. You're likely to experience some sort of anomaly -- usually cold spots or static.

While I think of this as a 'psychic machine' -- people have left energy and expectations there to fuel the 'ghosts' -- it's still, for all intents and purposes, like a true haunt (whatever that might be). And, at the core of things, there probably is a haunt. So, that's good enough, right?

People who most want to experience (and aren't pushovers), rarely do. My mother told me I explained to her that Santa Claus didn't exist at age 3 -- and that I was annoyed that adults believed in that nonsense. So. . . I never expect anything to happen. Even now. If I let myself hope -- in a place I've seen activity before -- nothing will happen.

But the unexplained exists -- sometimes spectacularly. And writing off anything completely unless you know beyond doubt it's a fake, is as closed-minded as believing everything. If you feel the one figure has validity, go with it. This is an area more of personal truth than science. Listen to your own instincts.

Places that are traditional sacred sites tend to be geomagnetic hotspots and those are likely to yield some phenomena. Also, fault lines, underground water, power poles (not phone lines, but high-power lines, especially junctions and transformers) all feed hauntings. Places with lots of stone (concrete, rock w/silica -- other things, I'm bad at remembering the details) hold residual hauntings well too.

I think it's all about energy. Whether humans or power lines or the earth feeds it, the anomaly usually needs strong batteries to activate it. (If you have a friend who's on the emotional side, take him or her along -- that's another great way to get poltergeists and other fun things to act up.)
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