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Operation Ophelia and Northcom fact or fiction?

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posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by SkyFox2
Where did you find this information? Can you provide one or more links if you located this online, and perhaps an excerpt concerning Ophelia from the article you read?


Actually, while you're getting the link for Sky how about a link to Katrina in the bible code? Ophelia doesn't really seem to be going to be anywhere near as devastating and I can't believe the Ophelia being discussed here has that much potential either.

P.S. Good to see you too Sky. BTW, I've been called worse so I forgive you for that one.




posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 06:19 PM
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Yeah, the people who are already unquestionably in control of this country are going to impose that control militarily now just on a whim, and use the weather to do it. Sure.

It doesn't make much sense really. What is to be gained from starting a civil war? The bad guys are already in charge.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 09:59 PM
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www.northcom.mil...

www.northcom.mil...

Well, there's some interesting thing to be read here. Sounds like they're trying to be sure to clarify that they are assisting within the law.




By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act..."

- President George W. Bush

News Release
President Bush Orders Ready Reserves of Armed Forces to Active Duty Delegating Certain Authorities to the Secretary of Defense






U.S. Northern Command is not the police auxiliary and does not supersede the "first responder" role of lead federal agencies.
The U.S. Constitution gives the President inherent authority to defend our country. Although the military is prohibited from domestic law enforcement, when called by the President, the military can support federal, state, and local enforcement agencies.

There are 11 million state and local first responders in the U.S. involved in homeland security activities such as local hazmat teams, fire departments, and emergency medical teams. They are the first line of defense for homeland security.

Given these parameters, U.S. Northern Command does not:

Create a new agency or military service (the command realigns and streamlines U.S. military structure to better address 21st century threats.)
Liaison directly with the Office of Homeland Security or the anticipated Department of Homeland Security. DoD conducts interagency liaison.
Conduct law enforcement operations (role of the U.S. Department of Justice)
Secure airports (role of Transportation Security Agency)
Secure borders (role of U.S Customs and Border Protection - CBP)
Provide "first responders" (role of federal, state and local community authorities, see state homeland security representatives.)
Train and maintain operational forces (the role of the various military services)
Plan or conduct homeland security in Hawaii (role of the U.S. Pacific Command)





U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM) stood up Oct. 1, 2002, at Peterson Air Force Base, Colo. The NORTHCOM commander is responsible for homeland defense and also serve as head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), a U.S.-Canada command. The current NORAD commander also is the commander of U.S. Space Command, also at Peterson. NORTHCOM's area of operations includes the United States, Canada, Mexico, parts of the Caribbean and the contiguous waters in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. The commander is responsible for land, aerospace and sea defenses of the United States. He will command U.S. forces that operate within the United States in support of civil authorities. The command will provide civil support not only in response to attacks, but for natural disasters. NORTHCOM takes the homeland defense role from the U.S. Joint Forces Command (JFCOM). JFCOM's Joint Task Force-Civil Support and related activities report to NORTHCOM. The NORTHCOM headquarters has established liaisons with the homeland security directors of each state, and has working ties with related federal and state agencies.


www.globalsecurity.org...



On October 1, 2002, one of the most important re-organizations of the U.S. military occurred. It was mentioned on local and national news stations, but its chilling importance and impact were not described in detail. In short, the reorganization constitutes an enormous increase in the power and influence of the military in our daily lives, all in the name of "homeland security." In the past, the duty of the U.S. military was nominally to ensure "national security," which was protection of the country from invasion by foreign powers.


www.nlg.org...

On a related, but side note:




NORTHCOM AND KATRINA....Last time I checked, naval officers aren't in the habit of criticizing their commander in chief no matter how many punches they have to absorb in the process. It appears, however, that Lt. Commander Sean Kelly, a Pentagon spokesman for Northern Command, didn't get the memo. Asked why Northcom hadn't responded to Hurricane Katrina more quickly, he accidentally told the truth:

Northcom started planning before the storm even hit....We had the USS Bataan sailing almost behind the hurricane so once the hurricane made landfall, its search and rescue helicopters could be available almost immediately So, we had things ready.

The only caveat is: we have to wait until the president authorizes us to do so. The laws of the United States say that the military can't just act in this fashion; we have to wait for the president to give us permission.

So why didn't the president issue the orders?



www.washingtonmonthly.com...

www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...



posted on Sep, 10 2005 @ 01:12 AM
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exodus2006.com...

[edit on 10-9-2005 by jimstradamus]



posted on Sep, 10 2005 @ 01:19 AM
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exodus2006.com...

The translation at the bottom of the page is interesting

[edit on 10-9-2005 by jimstradamus]



posted on Sep, 10 2005 @ 06:42 AM
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Thanks Jimstradamus. That's all very coincidental, interesting indeed. While it's far from proof of anything at all, I'm sure it'll raise a few eye brows, if not send a handful of the paranoid into unnecessary panic. A decent find you have there, but I hope others which run across that remain reserved, and skeptical (as I feel they should be).

Relentless: No insult intended, but I’m glad to see the bitterness which often goes along with conspiracy and such has yet to corrupt your sense of humor.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 06:11 AM
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www.globalresearch.ca...




With US forces overstretched in Iraq, why would the Pentagon decide to undertake this redeployment within the USA, barely one month before the presidential elections? The new mission of the 1st Brigade on US soil is to participate in "defense" efforts as well as provide "support to civilian authorities". What is significant in this redeployment of a US infantry unit is the presumption that North America could, in the case of a national emergency, constitute a "war theater" thereby justifying the deployment of combat units. The new skills to be imparted consist in training 1st BCT in repressing civil unrest, a task normally assumed by civilian law enforcement. What we are dealing with is a militarization of civilian police activities in derogation of the Posse Comitatus Act. ("Pre-election Militarization of the North American Homeland. US Combat Troops in Iraq repatriated to 'help with civil unrest'," Global Research, September 26, 2008)


www.armytimes.com...




They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack



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