The Russians developed Katrina?, page 1
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Topic started on 8-9-2005 @ 05:50 PM by dgtempe
www.prisonplanet.com... entors.htm


This is a bit far out, but i wanted you all to see it and get your comments.




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reply posted on 8-9-2005 @ 06:20 PM by MERC
I read some information in the book "Angels don't play this HAARP", stating that the Russians are advanced in this area of Technology, and that they do have one or more Electromagnetic Ionospheric heater type facilities since they were conceived in the very early 70's. There is also a high frequency heater in Dushanbe, Tadzhikistan, which is manned by Russian scientists. These are the types of Facilities that I believe could be used for weather manipulation, but the HAARP facility in Fairbanks, Alaska, is far more powerful than any of the other facilities dotted around the Globe.



PrisonPlanet article
Scott Stevens says after looking at NASA satellite photos of the hurricane, he’s is convinced it was caused by electromagnetic generators from ground-based microwave transmitters.


Since I have no way of analysing the NASA satellite photo's of the Hurricane, because of my complete lack of expertise in those fields, I have no way of knowing if the storm occurred naturally or not, but at this time I have to assume that it was a Natural event. I have my doubts though, just like i doubt the Yakuza were involved to obtain revenge on the U.S for bombing Hiroshima, but hey, what do i know?



reply posted on 8-9-2005 @ 06:45 PM by MERC
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
When I see Cuba get pounded by a dozen class 5 hurricanes in a row Ill believe the US has a weather machine.


It's not a hurricane machine, it's a multi-purpose facility, the main stated use of which is High altitude Auroral research, but it can do many other things.







www.haarp.alaska.edu...

When the HAARP facility is fired up and aligned with the several smaller Ionoshperic heater facilities, the operators can direct a particle beam of Radio frequency waves to any point in the Ionosphere with great precision, these beams do a wide variety of things, depending on the frequency set, like: Over the Horizon Radar, ground penetrating Tomography, communication with submarines, disruption of all enemy communications, disruption of all enemy electronic systems, an actual particle beam weapon which can be bounced off the Ionosphere to hit any specific target on the Planet (ELF could immobilise an entire army by making them vomit uncontrollably, for instance, among other things) and of course, last but not least, they can generate the appropriate pressures in the upper and lower atmosphere to manipulate the weather (too a limited extent, of course). This is all public knowledge, and it’s all right there in the Patents, It's not some wild, unfounded, conspiracy theory.

Here are some of the Patents related to the project listed in the book "Angels don't play this HAARP", I checked them out at the U.S Patent Office but am having trouble posting the links here.

Patent Numbers:

4,686,605
5,038,664
4,712,155
5,068,669
5,218,374
5,293,176
5,202,689
5,041,834
4,954,709
4,817,495
4,873,928



I heard a 4 hour Radio Interview on Coast to Coast AM with the program Managers of HAARP, they describe a few things, but congressional approval had to be obtained just for them to go on Air, and one of the men was speaking under National Security restrictions, the other, a Canadian, could speak a lot more freely.

I'm not implying any of this technology is actually bieng used to manipulate the weather at this time, niether am I implying Russians or anyone else is responsible for Katrina, or other violent storms before it, I'm just stating the technology is there in the form of these big Ionospheric heaters.





EDIT GRRRRRR, it's a nightmare editing posts on this forum, you go to insert a link and your whole blasted post dissapears. I have to format # in another forum then post it here, ANNOYING!



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reply posted on 9-9-2005 @ 01:22 AM by TheShroudOfMemphis
It's not so much about do they have the technology to create this storm? because they do have the technology (thou not the Japanese Mafia).

The questions should be, why didn't they try to reverse it? Dissapate it? Lessen the blow? etc. That can be done and has been done before. Of course it would of just been easier to use the evacuation drills they already had trained for aswell but that didn't happen. Maybe if there was a Bush in power down there, things would of run better.

Also we have this guy, Brendan Loy who called the Hurricane 4 days before it hit and he only follows meterology as a hobby AND got his info of the governments own publically published weather sites.
66.237.232.84... (this is his temp site because he's had a fair bit of traffic lately, can be slow)

Again, why didn't they do anything about it if it was that obvious?

I don't think anyone wants to reveal the fact they can manipulate weather at this point in time so i doubt it could ever be proven without a lot of conjecture but the technology does exist, was pretty advanced by the late 70's and the US do have a target of 2025 in which they will 'own the weather'. Heat the water, cool the air, add a dash of converging winds and soon enough a hurricane is born.

It could very well be Mother nature but don't kid yourselves that the opposite couldn't be true either, just don't expect it to become public knowledge if that's what you need to research alternatives. It's horrible to think about but it's also a very powerful weapon which is why A LOT of research has been done into it for the last 50 years.

Deny Ignorance, research weather modification, it's very interesting stuff.



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reply posted on 9-9-2005 @ 02:30 PM by syrinx high priest
As soon as I realized how bad katrina was, I guessed there would be 3 theories instantly thrown out here

1) the chinese did it (close)
2) bush/NWO is behind it (check)
3) its the american civil war of 2005 as predicted by john titor (oh yeah, they are going nuts over there)


have there been any alien theories ?


could it be a conspiracy of unfortuante events ? big storm(catefory 5) hits big city (500,000) that is 6 feet below sea level and has levees designed for a category 3 .
Throw in a corrupt local and state gov't with a crime ridden lower class (highest per capita murder rate in the US
www.msnbc.msn.com...) and FEMA being manned by a bunch of connected cronies ?

the only thing here thats remotely a conspiracy is W's friends got jobs they didn't deserve, and the local gov't was completely overwhelmed, and the people left behind were there with a violent criminal class


with that said, I havce to admit there are documented examples of the ruskies seeding clouds, but how do you go from that to katrina ? are you suggesting they are flying russian planes over the west coast of africa/eastern atlantic seeding these systems and we don't know it ?
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