Hitler's contact with an alien species

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posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 03:26 PM
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I remember reading almost a year ago ago on ATS that Hitler said in his book that he had met an alien or subterranean race of species, I've been looking high and low for it, and can't find anything on it. Anyone got anything on it or related to it?




posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 05:17 PM
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I wonder if that would help answer the questions about the Germans and their never ending lust for infomation and research into the Antartic region? From what I have read, they had a very keen intrest and spent quite a few marks in leading expidetions to that region and no one really knows why. It has been implied however, that they were looking for something like the Holy Grail. If I can find the reference, I'll post it asap.



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 05:45 PM
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theres a thread somewhere here on ats talking about how the nazis never had an advanced technology. many claim that they did and that they inherited it from a different species.

[edit on 7-9-2005 by topsecretombomb]



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 06:43 PM
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I vaguely remember reading something about this a number of years ago as well...but it wasn't on ATS. Don't quote me on this...again this was years ago...but I think I read it in in one of Carl Jung's works about the collective unconscious. The way I remmeber reading it, he was theorizing about a reference that Hitler allegedly made in his writings about having met the "ubermenschen," and having described them as tall reptilian beings and being very scared of them. So...the Jungian theory was that Hitler was experincing some particular aspect of the collective unconscious.

Again...years ago...I'm sketchy on the details.

But, it might help track down the actual references. I don't know which writing of Hitlers was being referred to.

You might try scanning through his works online:
Mein Kampf
Zweites Buch

...but I don't remember seeing anything about it last I looked. Jung may have been referring to comments in his love letters to Eva Braun, but I don't know of any online translations, so unless you read German, you might have a difficult time parsing through those.

If you find it, please post. I've been wondering for years if there is anything to the Hitler/Reptilian claim or if it was just another web hoax.



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 07:06 PM
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I may have found it...but the source is questionable. if you go to:

www.perspectives.com...

There is the following claim:

Hitler said he took his orders for the Nazi conquest from the Superman who lived inside the Earth. In a conversation with, Governor Rausching, a man who tried to tell the Nazi Leader of the great difficulty of genetically creating a new species, Hitler replied "The New Man is living among us now! He is here! Isn't that I enough for you? I will tell you a secret. I have seen the New Man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him!

So...that gives us the name Rausching, and it sounds like the "ubermenschen" line is being quoted as something Hitler said to his council, not something that Hitler wrote. So...a little looking for Rausching reveals:

The Voice of Destruction

(English translation of Gespraeche mit Hitler.)

This appears to be the book which people are citing regarding Hitler's personal contact with aliens. Unfortunately, according to the Institute for Historical Review:

www.ihr.org...

The Rausching book is a fabricated piece of wartime propaganda, from someone who was ousted from the Nazi party, and "made a professional anti-nazi" of himself.

Not exactly the most reliable of sources. Still, the very best lies are based on the truth, so it might be worth your while to find a copy of the book and read it. Again...let us know what you find.



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 09:58 PM
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Hitler was talking about Henry Kissenger.



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 10:10 PM
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Hitler had also pretty much melted his brain by 1945 off methemphatmines

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posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by Distortion
Hitler had also pretty much melted his brain by 1945 off methemphatmines

[edit on 7-9-2005 by Distortion]


He was mentally unstable and had bouts of delusion by 1939. His physicians and staff hid it well. He obviously had some disorder prior to that. I wouldn't take anything he wrote seriously.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 12:47 AM
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People love to hate hitler, they have there reasons but what about stealing 100 million black slaves ? I guess we just put those guys is our history books as our great leaders. Its sad that history is written buy the winners. What would of happened if The yanks lost the war ?



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 01:42 AM
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home.manyrivers.aunz.com...

This thread has info about Nazi alien/ufo involvment...
not specifically Hitler.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by helium3
People love to hate hitler, they have there reasons but what about stealing 100 million black slaves ? I guess we just put those guys is our history books as our great leaders. Its sad that history is written buy the winners. What would of happened if The yanks lost the war ?


I dont love to hate him I hate him for legitimate reasons as do most others. Would you care to elaborate on how people 'love' to hate him.

The issue of slavery in the U.S. is still a touchy subject. In all mainstream teachings today in the U.S. kids are taught to villify slave owners/ slave runners.. I dont see how they're glorified at all. If anything they're overly hated in my opinion.

If us 'Yanks' lost the war Hitler would have most likely taken over the world and started an ethnic clensing not only on Jews but it would soon turn to other races ie blacks, middle eastern etc... And yeah the history books would read a bit different.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 01:06 PM
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The supposed Nazi Hannabu II flying saucer is exactly the same as the 'Scout ship' flying saucer photographed by George Adamski in 1952.

Stranged how he claimed to have meet Nordic aryan like people who flyed it.....

[edit on 8-9-2005 by Spreadthetruth]



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 02:06 PM
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Distortion:
>Would you care to elaborate on how people 'love' to hate him.

Do you hate Kaiser Vilhelm? How about Matsui Iwane? Joseph Stalin?

No? Just Hitler?

Spreadthetruth:
>The supposed Nazi Hannabu II flying saucer
>Stranged how he claimed to have meet Nordic
>aryan like people who flyed it.....

I'm sorry...I don't follow. Why is this strange?



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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Not funny.


[edit on 9/9/2005 by Amorymeltzer]



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Distortion

taken over the world


This is not what the US is currently trying to do ?



Originally posted by Distortion

and started an ethnic clensing



How many more arabs need to die before we can say its ethnic clensing
Theres really no diffrance between Hilter and bush in my mind and its really only people in the US that are blind to this sorry to say. As for the slaves thats the biggest joke i have every heard...dragging a race of people half way round the world to pick your cotton SHAME, PAY THEM



[edit on 8-9-2005 by helium3]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 03:41 PM
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I think it seems hearsay that Hitler had an Alien conatact at all. He was a raging Speed Freak and he had classic signs of Paranoid Delusions. As for the New Man speech he may have slipped into a time line when he was influenced by Wagner and Nietzsche when he was in Austria.

True, he was held to have talks with invisible things but I think it may have shown either a sign of delusion or mebbe it was his Guardian Angels (tee hee) which are a disaffected part of the personalities, it we believe in the model of a mutiple mind as in RD Laing and his psychiatries, which Neuro Linguistics people also believe in as well.

What interests me is the fact that he wasn't just a speed freak (most of the Nazi echelon were speed freaks or heroin junkies) but that he may have been a regular user of mescalin with alot of his peers especially when he was eking out a survival selling his art to the trend set in Vienna. It is said this is how he met Guido Von List of the Armanen Lodge.

So in retrospect he may have been a victim of a toxic chemognosis which the Nazi Echelon Doctor's suppied him. Lest us remember that JFK was also hooked on Speed and Pep Pills. In fact most prime ministers and presidents are adminstered drugs by their specialised doctors.

It would appear an easy level to get to, to surmise that the UFO-Alien hoohah may exist as a huge neo-rightist hoax for social control, especially in lieu of Project Paperclip and Die Spinne (the post WW2 enclave that shot off to Latin America), and also with the formation of right wing UFO cults like "The Silvershirts," which George Hunt Williamson and George Adamski belonged to. Indeed, Alex Constantine hints that there were FBI and Naval Intelligence agent provocateurs involved in these new age and rightist circles. I don't know if I buy that Thesis down to the ground.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by helium3

Originally posted by Distortion

taken over the world


This is not what the US is currently trying to do ?



Originally posted by Distortion

and started an ethnic clensing



How many more arabs need to die before we can say its ethnic clensing
Theres really no diffrance between Hilter and bush in my mind and its really only people in the US that are blind to this sorry to say. As for the slaves thats the biggest joke i have every heard...dragging a race of people half way round the world to pick your cotton SHAME, PAY THEM



[edit on 8-9-2005 by helium3]


Freedom isn't free bro, there is war and there will continue to be war. Are we trying to take over the world? I would say no; however, we have the capability. Ethnic cleansing? This is the stupidest arguement i've ever seen, America is the most diverse country on the planet, its diversity is what gives it abosolute strength. And by the way there is only one place on earth where slavery still exists, Africa. So get off your self richeous high horse and do something if it bothers you that much. I am not one who arbitrarily believes in our cause in Iraq, but the intial invasion is in the past we cannot do anything about that now, we must look to making the future better. In addition I didnt see hitler trying to create a democratic government for the jews.


And to LordBucket

Would you care to elaborate on how people 'love' to hate him.

Do you hate Kaiser Vilhelm? How about Matsui Iwane? Joseph Stalin?

No? Just Hitler?

I dont see why you're asking me my own question, and your response to this is quite igornant to say the least. We are on the topic if Hitler and because I say I hate one doesn't mean that there are MANY others thoughout history who are equally scum to me. Dont try to turn this debate on a tangent



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 03:47 PM
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Oh forgot to add another point Helium, while cotton was a staple export in the early 19th century most of it was manufactured in Great Britain and distributed thoughout the world, it wasn't all for America.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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Whether you hate Hitler or despise him is not an issue here, and how bad slavery was isn't either. And, I would've thought it rather obvious that politics and the current Arab situation isn't either.

Hitler and the Nazi's and their contact with an alien race. THAT is the topic at hand, now stick to it.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 09:17 PM
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The Nazis invented Methadone did you know that? Presumably as most of their top guns were raging junkies.

The Subterrenean thesis runs like this, Shamballah and Agartha, Great White Brotherhood, Secret Chiefs, Hollow Earth Theories, North and South Pole Secret Bases, Ice Mages, Armanen, Thule, etc. blah - go read Dusty Sklar or Holly Sklar if you want.

Immanuel Velivosky and his Ice and Fire theories of how there was a ball of ice (the original world) shaped like a duodocahedron (444 current) then it went on fire collide with a comet, lo and behold - trala - ahabradabra - a perfoict world with a star seeded transmission from Sirius B (the Double Star) which gave us life in the form of mammalian life, and thus we owe our debt to the Titans of Valhalla (who really did exist) and lo, we also hold our spiritual debts to the Sirians and the Elder Gods as well for seeding our evolutions.

Of course these Sirians have astral relatives right here in Tibet and the secret entrances of the two diametrically opposed light and dark hollow earth empires. They seeded Atlantis and Thule of course the Great Polar Kingdoms (check Admiral Byrd for his Hollow Earth airplane reconnaisance!) where all the Arayans lived until the cataclysms (they got too big for their boots) and then moved to Tibet. All hail the bon, black and blue and red!!

One Hollow Earth kingdom is good the other wooah evill!! Ask Richard Shaver and Edward Bulwer Lytton and HP Lovecraft and all the others of the air loom gang like Blackwood, Machen, etc.

It is said by George C Andrews that Hitler was attuned into contact with his Holy Guardian Angels that were Aliens, otherwise known as the wee fella Lam, a disembodied tibetan llamha who was turned into a tulpa for the secret chiefs who Blavatsky also contacted. He was a mercurius figure for the new aeon as integrated by Crowley, the Aeon of Horus that doubles with the Aeon of Maat.

Presumably the Ice Mage business has some transport with the Black Bons and the Tumo. Of course it may exist as a huge cosmic joke as the Earth will goto its Ice Age again eventually, what do you think?

I doubt anyone will want to believe any of this hokum do you?

[edit on 9-9-2005 by castlesonair]





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