posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 05:40 PM
good posts shadowhawk, plenty to think about there
there is one error though, and its this;
The government acknowleged the exisitence of stealth technology development programs in 1980 but categroically denied the exisitence of a
"Stealth Fighter" until it was unveiled by DoD in November 1988.
I have hard copies of reports, factual press reports incuding quots from the DoD, that talk about CSIRS (the F-117) quite openly that date from 1980
onwards and the CSIRS designation was used by the Pentagon itself, however they only went as far as saying that it was real, the faceted design was a
real surprise when it was revealed as everyone had been fooled into thinking it looked like Testors model of the F-19.
There was even a spoof report by 'uncle Roger' in Flight that asked the question that if the new secret stealth fighter was 'In-weather' (as
described in the CSIRS acronym) then what is an 'out-of-weather' fighter? And then went on to advertise the marvellous new 'Scruggs Wonderjet'
out-of-weather fighter that was absolutely unbeatable as long as there was no weather of any kind, in which case it was useless. I did say it was a
spoof and I guess 'you had to be there'.
Warpboost, when you ask that about the F-22 you are making the mistake of thinking that it was a black project, as I've said before, it never was.
Although the specifics were naturally (and largely remain) classified the launch of the ATF programme to develop an F-15 replacement was very public
and a plethora of spoof designs were issued by the industry in order to satisfy the publics curiosity about the new fighter without actually giving
Of course keeping it completely secret, or black, was never a realistic option as the plan was to replace the entire front line F-15 fleet with over
700 of them. True black projects involve much more specialised aircraft in much smaller numbers which helps keep them secret.
For instance if the F-22 could somehow have been kept secret the point would come where people asked "where did all our fighters go?" with the F-15
fast disappearing for no obvious reason.
Therefore to take the fact that you know about the F-22 as a sign that a better aircraft exists would be utterly wrong.
A true black aircraft is one that fills a hole in the front line that nobody knows exists.
[edit on 7-9-2005 by waynos]