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reply posted on 9-9-2003 @ 06:52 AM by Satyr
I'll bet the same thing has happened to nonreligious statues too, if it's not just a hoax.

Here's a nice review of the Fox production. It sounds more like a circus freak show, to me.

Unsuspecting viewers were treated to a litany of provocative claims-bleeding statues, messages from Jesus, stigmata-that were "investigated" by Australian journalist Michael Willesee. Actually, although representing himself as a skeptic, Willesee betrayed an agenda to promote such alleged phenomena as authentic. Going beyond mere mystery mongering, he employed science in only a very limited way, repeatedly avoiding skeptical experts in the specific fields (e.g. people knowledgeable of "weeping" statues) and often bypassing the essential tests necessary to detect fraud. For instance, no doctor examined a stigmatist's wounds and no attempt was made to keep her from inflicting them surreptitiously, but the blood was afterward tested and proved to be her blood - as expected.

Similarly, no scientific protocol was followed in ruling out trickery with a "weeping" and "bleeding" bust of Jesus; however, a dubious CAT scan was afterward employed "to test for the possibility of trickery or fraud," and the blood was forensically examined. When it was found to be female blood, Willesee suggested that that might be due to Jesus' having had only a mother and "no father."

Such stubborness, or perhaps sheer ineptitude - or worse - kept the program from presenting evidence that was contrary to the claims being made. For example, the stigmatist, Katya Rivas from Bolivia, was never shown actually producing a wound, but rather was presented in incremental shots after each appeared: first the supposed crown-of-thorn marks on the forehead, then those of the hands and feet. Her bed covers provided ample opportunity for concealment. Moreover, the wounds on her hands and feet were comprised of multiple slash marks, not single punctures, while the location of the wound on the top of her left foot was far from that on the bottom, suggesting they were indeed made separately.

Many phenomena went totally unexamined, or the examination was not reported, including the appearance of an image of the Virgin on a concrete floor (looking like the work of an unskilled artist) and the multicolored "glitter" that manifested itself on a print of the Image of Guadalupe (a bogus but widely revered "miracle" picture).


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[Edited on 9-9-2003 by Satyr]


reply posted on 9-9-2003 @ 12:04 PM by alienaddicted
It's hard to argue about when you've never seen one....

but I'll probably get to see the documentaire I was talking about in my first post, Signs of God, a friend thinks he has a friend who taped it.
I think it's a different one the article is describing, Satyr? ..don't know..I'll tell you what it was like...

Anybody who has seen a statue crying Live in action??


here some other articles on crying statues:

Thousands of believers have flocked to the Sicilian city of Messina after a statue of the revered Padre Pio began shedding tears some think are blood.

news.bbc.co.uk...


Tests on crying Madonna fail to show hoax?

www.cathnews.com...

Doug Clark, researcher in the chemistry department at Murdoch University, tested the statue’s tears.
He found that they were olive oil with an added fragrant oil (most likely rose).
He could not determine the exact age, but the oil appeared fresh, he said. Dr Rob Hart, of the department of medical imaging at Curtin University, took x-rays of the statue.
He found no cavity or reservoir and no obvious sign of fluid.

www.catholicweekly.com.au...


mysteries...


reply posted on 10-9-2003 @ 01:29 AM by Satyr
YOU CAN GET BLOOD FROM A STONE
www.luigigarlaschelli.it...

Why all the secrecy in investigations, then? Why don't these churches release the results to the public? Why don't they let skeptics investigate?

Statue probe under attack
www.multiline.com.au...

Why are most of these statues glazed? Could it be because they're the easiest to hoax?

The entire statue is then soaked in a thin oil of some sort. Vegetable oil works well: water would evaporate, while a thick oil would not penetrate through the small holes and be absorbed by the plaster beneath. It helps to heat the oil slightly to thin it a little during the soaking stage. This phase of the operation might take days or even weeks but the effect is worth the effort.

The statue is then removed from the bath and wiped clean before being placed in its position for display. In the next little while, usually a matter of a couple of days, a tear of oil will appear under the eye of the statue and the miracle is complete, or almost.

control.com.au...
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