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Tony Blair Surprised In Chinese State Visit

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posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 12:48 PM
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British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, encountered a few surprises on his recent state visit to China. Whilst on a political talk show the host raised a large placard with Tony Blair's personal fax number on it and encouraged its 100 million viewers to fax him. The host mentioned how Mr. Blair takes time to respond to the letters, faxes and emails sent to him. On a more serious note, Tony Blair is optimistic democracy is on its way for China. The Chinese are allowing their citizens to directly vote at a villiage level, with plans to extend it if successful.
 



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Over the past two days, Mr Blair believes he has seen less reluctance for prime minister Wen Jiabao to meet the issue head on and suggest it is one that is being actively addressed.

Officials point out there is no timetable, and the prime minister has said "only time will tell".

On Monday, Mr Wen had spoken about his belief that Chinese citizens were now being trusted with direct elections at village level. similar elections at township level might follow, with more, he suggested, in the future.

It is being said the prime minister was equally optimistic about his opposite number's tone during a private lunch on Tuesday.

No one is over-hyping the trip but there is a clear hope in Downing Street that these words may signal something new happening in China.


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Atleast it wasnt a dull and boring state visit. It looked like Tony was kept on his toes the entire time he was there by his Chinese hosts.

I am encouraged by the murmurings behinds the scenes in China and that democracy is now being given, an albeit very small, chance to spread.

Its in the World's interest that China should democratise peacefully and takes its part on the World stage as a major superpower.

[edit on 6/9/05 by subz]

[edit on 9-9-2005 by asala]




posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 01:04 PM
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Years I have been saying this would happen - why won't people ever listen?

The Chinese Government are not the "big bad" which people think they are in fact they have been making steps to introduce the worlds largest version of Direct Democracy however, they will have a set Government as well.

They are doing this so the Chinese people can begin to have their say on moral laws which was the idea but not technical laws they would have no understanding of.

The next step is to start bring in Government elected bodies that have this specialist knowledge and badda-bing you will have a very affective system of Government. I am just hoping they keep it on this road and go down the Swiss/Swedish version of freedom rather than the American/British version.



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 05:55 PM
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What Blair was really surprised by was how much the UK is now like China



posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 06:05 PM
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Yah, 09/12/05 They just visited Canada. But I'm still for cancellation on the MFN China policy re their imports and lesser duties.

Stop um quick and stop em now from putting North Americans out of work due to their (China) cheap labor and benefit costs which is upstaging our own Countries from producing goods on our own.

Dallas

EDIT: Oh, and cutting down their exports could also mean less Oil needs for them too.

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posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Odium
Years I have been saying this would happen - why won't people ever listen?

The Chinese Government are not the "big bad" which people think they are in fact they have been making steps to introduce the worlds largest version of Direct Democracy however, they will have a set Government as well.

They are doing this so the Chinese people can begin to have their say on moral laws which was the idea but not technical laws they would have no understanding of.

The next step is to start bring in Government elected bodies that have this specialist knowledge and badda-bing you will have a very affective system of Government. I am just hoping they keep it on this road and go down the Swiss/Swedish version of freedom rather than the American/British version.


The thing about China is that it's presenting a very revolutionary form of government besides the usual conservative/liberal garbage. They're using an authoritarian system that is very willing to relingquish control to citizens while sticking to Mao's original doctrine. In fact, this is very close to what Mao was originally calling for.



posted on Sep, 14 2005 @ 03:40 PM
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SEE!? We aren't the bad guys, here's proof! We're just taking our time thats all. We're making sure we don't split up into like 6 smaller China's like Russia.



posted on Sep, 15 2005 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by Winchester Ranger T
What Blair was really surprised by was how much the UK is now like China


I agree.

Western style democracy with anti-terrorism laws in very similar to communism/socialism style countries which are easing up on hard core red doctrine.

In our country we had communism for 50 years. The only difference I see is I can buy products that weren't available under former regime and some personal freedoms.
But can I afford them? Well that's another question.



posted on Sep, 15 2005 @ 04:48 AM
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what i'd be interested in hearing about, is China's endeavours in the use of alternative energies. Politics aside, would you all agree that if China follows the oil gorging practices of other large nations, that before long, well, we're all up the creek without a paddle?

Also, with the current changes happening there, wouldn't it be an ideal time to motivate action in the area of oil alternatives?



posted on Sep, 15 2005 @ 11:36 AM
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I'll see what I can dig up for you.



posted on Sep, 30 2005 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
The thing about China is that it's presenting a very revolutionary form of government besides the usual conservative/liberal garbage. They're using an authoritarian system that is very willing to relingquish control to citizens while sticking to Mao's original doctrine. In fact, this is very close to what Mao was originally calling for.


Indeed.

Many people forget during the period of the 'Cultural Revolution' Mao tried to push through 'Direct Democracy' however due to a largely uneducated population it didn't work and caused a lot of the problemse we see now.

You had two rival groups; one wanting to wait to put it into play and one wanting it now and during the 1970's and 1980's we found out what happens when those two groups clashed.



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