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Who are you talking to here, gottr? Me? I actually have been out of the country. I grew up overseas.
Originally posted by gottr
Can you debate it other wise? No, because they are.
Originally posted by gottr
This is where we differ, I will not characterize being born American. I am born human and have all rights that any free creature has. In that is the right to drive a car, or piss on your lawn.
People always want to put everything into a nice little box and label it.
You technically dont need it to drive.
Plus we pay tax dollars to maintaine those roads.
Yet she has a hard time getting around without a vehicle.
The reason she wont drive is because it is the LAW to have insurance, it is funny, that this LAW is opressing her
yet she still chooses to obey it. She could go drive is she wanted too.
There is no reason why anyone should get in the way of me living my life.
I am tired of living in a society that is governed by laws
the right to steal them because you already have that right
I have the right to drive a vehicle
the right to do whatever I want whenever I want = freedom. Simple
I bet there are places out there that are better or just as good. I will send you a postcard.
Saying it is the law is basically saying the same thing as "because I told you so".
Being forced to pay money for fines and insurance is just this lifetimes way of taxation and opression.
If you drive on the state's property, then you shouldn't have a problem providing the credentials they request.
Nobody is forcing you to drive on public roads
I'm wondering how you'd argue that the laws making it illegal to kill your parents, are somehow oppressing you.
Originally posted by gottr
Just because it is a law, does not mean I dont have the right to do something
. If you said you cannot kill, then you would be oppressing me, but I doubt I would have any pity, because it is wrong. I can kill them if I chose too.
Is there even a law that says, dont kill? Probably somewhere.
Law is not oppression. Oppression is what happens when those who rule do not respect actual rights, actual rights, not these made up ones that you are having a problem with only because you apparently can't afford to pay insurance or want to steal stuff from other people. Law is not oppression, Law is freedom. Without law, you can not realize your full potential in a society. In the absence of law, you will be oppressed by the powerful, be it a corporation on the other side of the planet, a regional warlord, or a stronger and more violent neighbhor.With a combination of laws in accord with actual rights, then you have the most freedom. So long as you merely demonstrate a minimal driving ability and basic understanding of the markings and signs on the road, and can hire a company to pay for any of the massive damage that you might wreak should you get into an accident, then you can drive anywhere. License tests and insurance payments are nothing compared to what you'd have to pay in a lawless society to travel across long distances. You'd have to bride thugs, get beat up by bandits, fight to get fuel, kill to get food, steal to get medecine, and all sorts of things, to go across a country without law and society. Neverminding that you'd not have a car in such a society anyway, or paved roads to drive them on, maps to determine which way to go, or anything else. If you want 'absolute freedom', there are places all over the world that have no legitimate government, and even places that have absolutely not government at all, legit or otherwise. Feel free to check them out. Just remember to bring plenty of ammunition, food stock, and medical supplies.
Originally posted by gottr
Nothing is true but facts, everything else is just opinion. And youve stated yours.